M1 carbine for hog hunting?
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Red Tornado
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If a hog doesn't go down with the first shot, how many times do you guys realistically think you're going to be able to hit it with follow-up shots? The hog's now running, through underbrush most likely, and you'll now be able to get proper shot placement?!? Really? I wish I was that good. I know it works in the movies, but in real life "bring enough gun!"
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amd6547
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amd6547...Cool Picture!!!!!...as for the statement that said about the boar running into brush an wouldn't be able to get a follow up shot.....please....the M1 doesn't have that
much of a kick, so staying on target isn't that difficult for follow up shots...alot of guys
are that good...is there anyone that has a M1 that doesn't think follow up shots are possiable.....? I had a M1 Carbine, take me boar hunting, an I'll show you multiple hits.
much of a kick, so staying on target isn't that difficult for follow up shots...alot of guys
are that good...is there anyone that has a M1 that doesn't think follow up shots are possiable.....? I had a M1 Carbine, take me boar hunting, an I'll show you multiple hits.
jimmyraythomason
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shaggy430,yeah and so is the .44-40,.45 Colt and .44 remington magnum. All are very capable rounds in a rifle/carbine configuration.
MCgunner
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I would. You don't wanna be tracking a wounded, POed hog with a pop gun, trust me.
A foster slug in 20 gauge puts up 1600+ ft pounds IIRC. The .30 carbine, think of a .357 revolver with a 110 grain bullet.
Actually, it puts up close to 1000 ft lbs at the muzzle, just ain't much meat in the bullet. If using and expanding bullet, it's gonna be tough to get adequate penetration. I know, I know, head shot. Well, I could HEAD SHOOT a friggin' hog with my 10/22, but that don't make it an adequate hog gun. Hogs require shoulder shots and a big boar will have a gristle plate there to penetrate plus all that muscle and bone. Nothing behind the shoulder, but guts. Don't go there. This is what makes 'em tough for the bow hunter, too. Inside 50 yards, the 20 gauge would do, the carbine, not so much IMHO. Me, I'll stick with my .308. You use what ya want. A crippled hog will die eventually and every dead hog is a good hog around where I live, but I like to be able to put 'em down so I can carve 'em up and wrap and freeze 'em.
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jimmyraythomason
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Sounds like sage advice to me,MCgunner.
I live in South Florida and have killed quite a few wild hogs ranging from 250 lbs down to 60 lbs. The farmers here hate them. I have seen them drop like a lightning bolt from a .30-30 and run like hell when hit with a 180 grain .30-06 with almost the same shot placement. Recently we have taken to riding the berms just before dark. The hogs tend to jump when the buggy gets close and I was thinking the M-1 carbine would be light, quick on the target and I could get multiple shots when they break cover at 30-40yrds. The "armor plate" on the hogs are on the front shoulder and protect the vitals, but every rifle shot I have seen has fully penetrated the plate on at least one side. I did lose a big hog (275+) when I shot him with a .30-30 at about 120 yards. Found him the next day about 150 yards away (the vultures were on him). The shot penetrated the plate on the one side but didn't exit on the off side and there just wasn't enough blood trail to follow at night. My uncle offered his M-1 to me, but I hesitate because its a Rockola that he has had for years and is in great shape. He paid $100 for it and it is all matching. Nice huh.
George757
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I used an M-1 carbine this past Spring to kill a hog, but I wouldn't use it again. The soft-point knocked him down, but I had to administer a coup-de-grace with my 1911 - to the head, and no, the bullet didn't bounce off. Iron sights don't always yield "precision" shots, depending on the distance and if you're equipped with "old-eyes". Bigger is better for hogs, IMHO.
Heck
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When hunting hogs, especially on foot, I would rather have a little more gun than the .30 carbine. I used to hunt hogs regularly in south Arkansas and they have a way of making me really nervous and even scared a few times. They don't always act predictibly when hit which makes me want to put them down fast. I've seen a 60 pound chaote take a 22 mag between eyes and run off and 300 pounder eating acorns with an arrow sticking out from behind the shoulder.
In arkansas you arent supposed to use any rifle larger that .25 caliber outside of deer season, although I haven't see it inforced, I would advise to know the local laws. 25-06, .243 and even a .22-250 were used with success in my group of friends.
Since you have been using slugs I would assume you aren't shooting to far and think an SKS or a .30-30 wouldnt be a bad choice. An 1895 marlin or Puma 92 in .44 mag or 480 Ruger might not be too bad either.
In arkansas you arent supposed to use any rifle larger that .25 caliber outside of deer season, although I haven't see it inforced, I would advise to know the local laws. 25-06, .243 and even a .22-250 were used with success in my group of friends.
Since you have been using slugs I would assume you aren't shooting to far and think an SKS or a .30-30 wouldnt be a bad choice. An 1895 marlin or Puma 92 in .44 mag or 480 Ruger might not be too bad either.
As would I. It would've had to either been some very anemic loads, or a very shallow angle.
I killed two last week with a 1911 commander. 230 gr ball, factory loaded Blazer Brass. Shot them once apiece, through the top of the skull, just high of the eyes. DRT, both shots through and through.
I know there may be fluke incidents where bullets can take glancing shots at weird angles and such, but that is the exception rather than the rule.
Hogs are tough, but they are not rhinos.
As per the original question, if within reasonable yardage, I see no reason why the .30 carbine wouldn't work.
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Hogs in Georgia
Interesting talk about wild hogs. Yes, they can be killed with a .22. I have friends that do it regularly but almost all say use the biggest gun you can handle. The feral hogs in Georgia are BIG. Remember Hogzilla? Four, five and six hundred pounders are not unknown. Admittedly, there are a lot of smaller ones. All of the guides and regular hunters I have talked with also say they carry a large caliber handgun in case they only wound one and it squeels for its buddies and they have to go up a tree. By the way, a 70 year old man CAN climb a tree if properly motivated! They have been known to try to root up the tree you have climbed when you just wounded one. Remember, hogs are omnivores: they will eat meat and that includes you. I know of one man who had his leg gnawed off before his hunting buddies rescued him.
Interesting talk about wild hogs. Yes, they can be killed with a .22. I have friends that do it regularly but almost all say use the biggest gun you can handle. The feral hogs in Georgia are BIG. Remember Hogzilla? Four, five and six hundred pounders are not unknown. Admittedly, there are a lot of smaller ones. All of the guides and regular hunters I have talked with also say they carry a large caliber handgun in case they only wound one and it squeels for its buddies and they have to go up a tree. By the way, a 70 year old man CAN climb a tree if properly motivated! They have been known to try to root up the tree you have climbed when you just wounded one. Remember, hogs are omnivores: they will eat meat and that includes you. I know of one man who had his leg gnawed off before his hunting buddies rescued him.
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Yes, compared to a .30 carbine, absolutely. .30 carbine is a pistol round essentially.
JImbothefiveth
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Probably better to use the 20. Also remember that whenever you ask if you can hunt with a caliber, no matter what you're hunting or what caliber, the answer you'll get on the forums will almost always be "with good shot placement", citing either incredible shots or slaughterhouse conditions, even if it's likely to charge.
R.W.Dale
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the law now reads not larger than 30 cal. But here's the kicker anything larger than .22 rimfire is illegal in the national forests. Yes that's right the law requires you to hunt hogs with a 22 in certian areas
Heck
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That's good to know. I havent hunted them since I moved to Northwest Arkansas from Pine Bluff in 2000.
Man, I never thought of that. WILL they come to the rescue of a squealing, injured hog? Or try to take a dead one from you? I think that possibility would sway my decision towards more firepower. A .30 carbine might kill one hog easy enough, but what if others come after you? I don't think I'd want to go into "hog combat" underpowered.
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