m1 garand sales

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I was just curious. When was the m1 garand able to be purchased by civilians.
I know not in select fife, but i can go get an ar15. In ww2 could a civilian go buy an m1?
 
No, in WW-2 a civilian could not by a M-1. They aslo could not buy any new guns as they where not making any and ammunition was not for sale new too.
 
Surplus M1 Garands have been available from the Director of Civilian Marksmanship program since the 60s or 70s. I don't know the exact time frame.

Apparently the process was long and arduous as I have read folks waiting over a year for their "once-in-a-lifetime" M1.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program took over the sale of M1 Garands in the 90s. Currently, the M1 Garands available from CMP are returns from countries that the US loaned them to.

There have been imported M1 Garands available from countries that purchased M1 Garands from the US.

Production M1 Garands are only semi-auto rifles. The M14 is an evolution of the Garand and is selective fire. The M1A is the semi-auto only version of the M14.

Steel was used for pennies during WWII to save copper for more important uses, not just for bullet jacket material.
 
Surplus M1 Garands have been available from the Director of Civilian Marksmanship program since the 60s or 70s. I don't know the exact time frame.

Apparently the process was long and arduous as I have read folks waiting over a year for their "once-in-a-lifetime" M1.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program took over the sale of M1 Garands in the 90s. Currently, the M1 Garands available from CMP are returns from countries that the US loaned them to.
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I was one of those that bought one in the life time guns. It took over 12 months for the paperwork to clear. Rifle shipped via USPS, I have bought a few others from them sence. I still have that first one and the paper work that came with it. As I recall grand total was $110. With the rifle being $90 some odd dollars of it.

WB
 
I remember seeing M1 Garands and M1 Carbines for sale by mail order from surplus gun dealers like Interarms prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968. They started being reimported and showing up on the surplus market pretty soon after NATO allies the US had supplied them to standardized on the 7.62x51mm round, and began switching over to rifles in that calibre.
Ad from American Rifleman, 1962:
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Drool. I wonder what those prices would be today, after being adjusted for inflation. Last I heard, CMP M1 rifles were going for $595 (service grade).
 
The advertisement says the rifles are new. The CMP equivalent is $1100 today for a Correct grade and if they get any Collector grades, I think the price was $1500.

I heard the CMP got a few unfired Garands in the last batch from Greece, were auctioned off with prices going north of $3k and maybe up to $5k. Too rich for my blood so I did not pay much attention to them.

The $595 Service Grade Garands currently for sale from CMP are not new by any stretch of the imagination. Nice rifles and very serviceable, but not new.

That is not to say the rifles in the advertisement were not rebuilds being passed off as new. Importers would not do that, would they?

I do not think any Garands sold direct to the public came directly from the US government except through DCM or CMP. Rifles, such as those in the advertisement most probably went overseas first and then were sold to an importer buy the country that bought them from the US. DCM and CMP sold rifles that came from US government stocks, but I believe that supply has long been effectively exhausted.

But, I may not have all the facts straight.
 
when is someone going to start pumping out new garands? no reason why it can't be done.

maybe auto-ordinance, given that they're not making new m1 carbines?
 
Sure, if you don't mind paying about $1800 for them.

Don
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for a brand ass new, pristine quality garand with a pretty stock? already set up to fire modern ammo? i might pay that.
 
when is someone going to start pumping out new garands? no reason why it can't be done.
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IIRC, Springfield did a couple of years ago.

I believe the ammo rules applied to them, and does to Fulton rifles as well - but I may be mistaken on that.
 
There have been imported M1 Garands available from countries that purchased M1 Garands from the US.


The Garands CMP gets were never sold to other countries. They were loaned. That's why DoD gets them back and sends them to CMP.

for a brand ass new, pristine quality garand with a pretty stock? already set up to fire modern ammo? i might pay that.
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These "new" Garands depend heavily on NOS parts. To build a Garand today with the number of machining processes would be a lot more than $1600. Even these "new" Garands need to use milspec ammo. The gas system on the M1 is set up for the pressure curve of M2 ball. The rifle itself can take the pressure, the gas system won't. Use an adjustable gas plug and you can shoot what you want in any Garand.
 
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The M1A is the semi-auto only version of the M14.
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Almost correct - to clarify, the M1A is the trademarked name for the Springfield Armory made semiauto version of the M14. Since rifles made by Armscorp, Fulton Armory, Smith Enterprise Inc., LRB and similar cannot use the trademarked name, they are simply referred to as 'semiauto M14s' or 'M14 pattern rifles'. The same applies to a USGI parts kit built up on a Springfield receiver - even though the receiver says M1A the rifle was not built by that company.

For comparison, here are the markings on my Fulton receiver based rifle, built with a USGI parts kit and a Wolfe modified medium weight barrel and op rod guide.

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Sure, if you don't mind paying about $1800 for them.

Don

for a brand ass new, pristine quality garand with a pretty stock? already set up to fire modern ammo? i might pay that.
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For $1000 you can get a like new Garand with a new stock and new barrel. Add $35 for a Schuster plug, and you've got what you're looking for for $600 - $800 less than a new one can be manufactured for. It would not make economic sense for anyone to make new Garands, they would lose their shirts.

Don
 
I think that some of the first M1 Garands that found their way into civilian hands, other than the relatively few that went out through the marksmanship programs, were built on scrapped and rewelded receivers. I remember seeing lots of these at mass outlets such as Sears in the early to mid 1960's.

The $60-90 price on these rewelded Garands was high, when you consider that one could get a surplus SMLE Enfield, in nice condition, for $10. Academy Surplus in Austin, Texas, was selling Carcanos for as little as $5. Like new in the cosmoline!
 
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Almost correct - to clarify, the M1A is the trademarked name for the Springfield Armory made semiauto version of the M14. Since rifles made by Armscorp, Fulton Armory, Smith Enterprise Inc., LRB and similar cannot use the trademarked name, they are simply referred to as 'semiauto M14s' or 'M14 pattern rifles'. The same applies to a USGI parts kit built up on a Springfield receiver - even though the receiver says M1A the rifle was not built by that company.
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Thanks for the correction. Learn something every day.
 
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