Bruce D Pease
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Don’t remember Garand at woolworths. Do remember enfields (my 3, mk4 , and “jungle carbines”) as well as Italian carcanos at wt Grant. All under $30.
In comparison to the rest of the market, a CMP M1 is relatively cheap. Cheap vs. expensive are always relative terms. The question is what it's compared to. I don't know its history, but right now the market average a CMP M1 would be compared to is higher. Cost of production? Not material to the comparison because they're no longer being made.The M1 Garand is not a cheap rifle, and never has been.
I got my IHC Garand from the CMP in the '90's and it set me back $400. Wish I'd have bought two!
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Not so. I remember in the early 70's Woolworths Variety store had fiber barrels full of Garands and M1 Carbines. Carbines were just under $100 and Garands just over. NOBODY wanted them.
Adjusted for inflation, that's ~$800 today (1990/2020)
I'd say that's a pretty good bet. Not sure why they haven't done so already. What's your best guess? $950? Higher?And what do you bet the CMP raises their Service Grade rifle price to that after the 1st of the year.
Not so. I remember in the early 70's Woolworths Variety store had fiber barrels full of Garands and M1 Carbines. Carbines were just under $100 and Garands just over. NOBODY wanted them.
I'd say that's a pretty good bet. Not sure why they haven't done so already. What's your best guess? $950? Higher?
The bottom of the heap of current makers is a tie between Auto Ordnance/Kahr and “Inland” (not the original Inland, but a new company just using the name). Quality control from both outfits is very suspect. The new Inland produces a more faithful copy
Not surprising for having been in front-line service from 1936 to 1962 (and Reserve/Guard service well into the 70s).The vast majority of Garands have gone through at least one arsenal rebuild
I want to remember seeing that, SGs were returning to "in stock" and were to be listed at $850 each.And what do you bet the CMP raises their Service Grade rifle price to that after the 1st of the year.
...I want to remember seeing that, SGs were returning to "in stock" and were to be listed at $850 each.
Having been in and out of many a Woolsworth during the 1970, it wasn't until the the rewriting of the import laws that made M1 reappear in the stores, and that was in the mid 1980s.Not so. I remember in the early 70's Woolworths Variety store had fiber barrels full of Garands and M1 Carbines. Carbines were just under $100 and Garands just over. NOBODY wanted them.
That is also before the 1968 GCA which is what restricted the re-importation of Military Assistance M1s, until the 1980s. After the 1968 GCA the price of M1s went up as you could no longer get them.(NRA) American Rifleman Magazine - February 1963Mail Order...
Very Good - $79.95
"Like New" - $89.95
(~ $750 in Today's Dollars)
GR
Interestingly, it would take 72 hours to get the 89.95 Garand in 1963 at minimum wage and one week's pay to get it for someone making the average income for back then. Today it would take 100 hours to get the CMP Special at today's minimum wage and about 4 days based on average men's salary (I'm guessing more men buy these, sue me) so its really stayed about the same cost based on earning income. I'm driving down next week to Ala. to get one myself.(NRA) American Rifleman Magazine - February 1963Mail Order...
Very Good - $79.95
"Like New" - $89.95
(~ $750 in Today's Dollars)
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GR
Hammer carried a Remington model 8, supposedly in 25 Remington. That model was never made in 30-06. I assume you mean his BAR. The original 1918 BARs did have a semi auto setting so, technically, I suppose it would qualify under the OPs rules. That is a little known fact. Most people assume that BARs were all full-auto only, with two rates of fire, low and high. It is also not widely known that the WW II models had receivers made from "Armasteel" which is pearlitic malleable cast iron, not actual steel at all. It cannot be welded, but it can be brazed.Frank Hamer might disagree.
I would agree with you as well though.
I think they were one of the first, if not the first "precision" cast receivers for a modern high power cartridge.Hammer carried a Remington model 8, supposedly in 25 Remington. That model was never made in 30-06. I assume you mean his BAR. The original 1918 BARs did have a semi auto setting so, technically, I suppose it would qualify under the OPs rules. That is a little know fact. Most people assume that BARs were all full-auto only, with two rates of fire, low and high. It is also not widely known that the WW II models had receivers made from "Armasteel" which is pearlitic malleable cast iron, not actual steel at all. It cannot be welded, but it can be brazed.
it was still an issued weapon in the Reserves and National Guard, hence collectors/shooters had to settle for rewelds, etc.