Maadi AK 47 variant

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I saw an AK in a pawn shop that the owner said is a Maadi. It is in 7.62 cal and has a pistol grip and full stock. What can you all say about this firearm? Is it a quality variation of the AK or should I look elsewhere? Any info on this model would be helpful, thanks!
 
I don't know too much about the Egyptian AK variants, but I do know that many consider the Maadi to be the closest variant to a true Soviet AK. Quality is on the higher end. That's all I know. But I'm willing to bet someone comes along here shortly with a great deal of useful info for you. :)
 
I had a Maadi and it was a very nice AK. They tend to bring a pretty high price, I don't think they imported that many.
 
The first ones had laminated wooden buttstock and forend and a checkered reddish color plastic pistol grip.
They had a Steyr import mark on the left side of the barrel and included a functional bayonet lug and slant muzzle brake.
Very few were imported, supposedly some were also imported with the standard AKM underfolding stock too and these are extremely rare.

Second group were imported after the 1986 ban, about 1990 by I believe B-West.
They had a laminated wooden thumbhole stock and grip, laminated wood forend, no bayonet lug and the threads for the muzzle brake were machine turned off the front of the barrel.
They were marked as RML semi automatic sporting rifle
Maadi Rifle Factory
Made in Egypt
I have one of these and while it is authentic looking and functions 100%, I would hardly consider it to be more than a bullet hose.
7"- 100 meter groups are the norm and it only gets worse the farther out one goes.
Lapua ammunition will group 3"-4" in my rifle but is too expensive and hard to find to count on it.
Not too long ago I rebuilt the rifle with US made internals, gas piston, and the current Russian style black plastic furniture.
This improved nothing, but got rid of the thumbhole stock.
This is a picture of the rifle with the new look.
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A later group marked as the RMK sporter rifle also included some sporter versions of the longer barrelled RPK squad weapon.
I don't have a lot on these later guns, I have not had the pleasure of actually handling one. HTH
 
The Original Steyr-Aug Maadi was limited to 2k units. At the time, they were the closest you could get to an AKM without having selective fire. This made them highly desirable to collectors. (Don't know about today). Afterwards they came with that nasty thumbhole stock.
 
speakin of maadi's

i had 1 with the "nasty thumbhole stock" paid bout $200 for it, in the 90's.
the 1st time i shot it, was at an indoor range where rapid fire was ok.
so i proceeded to do one of my patented bump-fires, spraying the hell outta it.
the gun rose up and DESTROYED THE TARGET CARRIER!:what:
cost to repair the carrier was about $175
i just left them my gun
that was about the quickest $200 i ever spent:confused:

ok, flame away:)
 
Intrac and PARS also imported them in the dumbhole configuration. They carried the ARM designation. Mine is fine, nothing to write home about. The Intrac's I've run across have all had welded barrel nuts, while the PARS have had no threads. Not that I've seen all that many of either variation. There was also a 20" barreled model available.
 
Updated info.

I took another closer look at it and this is what I found:

MISR SA CAL 7.62 x 39 on receiver.

Made my Maadi CO. in Egypt

Imported C.A.I St. Alb. VT

The guy said its a 1998 or 1999 year import. Its post ban.

What can you tell me about it and what it is worth. Appears fired very little.

Thanks.
 
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This version DOES not have the thumbhole stock. The finish is rough on the firearm and it has wooden grips. It looks very much like the ak's you see on CNN. Does not have a bayo lug or f/s, its postban. Again, any info on this particular firearm would be appreciated.
 
speakin of maadi's

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i had 1 with the "nasty thumbhole stock" paid bout $200 for it, in the 90's.
the 1st time i shot it, was at an indoor range where rapid fire was ok.
so i proceeded to do one of my patented bump-fires, spraying the hell outta it.
the gun rose up and DESTROYED THE TARGET CARRIER!
cost to repair the carrier was about $175
i just left them my gun
that was about the quickest $200 i ever spent
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I really am sorry for your loss and mishap......but man that had me laughing so hard. :D:D Better luck next time....:p
 
Would I be able to use imported Hi caps in this firearm? I heard that some AK's cannot legally use hi caps. Again, any information on this particular firearm would be appreciated. Thank you people.
 
@tao- heh
its good you were laughing, at another forum i got in a flame war so bad i left over my "recklessness at the range" and haven't been back.
but i told the story on like 4 others and everybody else was cool
 
The bump fire thing is not my thing. But, regardless of whether I agree with it or not, no one was hurt I guess and you made good on your mistake. So long as you live and learn. Anyway...it did make for a humerus image in my mind...thanks for the chuckle. :)
 
Would I be able to use imported Hi caps in this firearm? I heard that some AK's cannot legally use hi caps. Again, any information on this particular firearm would be appreciated. Thank you people.
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anyone at all?
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My understanding is yes as it came that way when imported and you are not changing it. Now, if you want to add a Flash Hider, bayonet lug and pistol grip instead of the thumb hole stock than I believe that 922 r will come into play. Bottom line is if you use it as it is OEM, you can use the 30 rnd mags or even the 75 rnd drums if you can find one....PROVIDING your own state laws allow it.
 
I don't think that's correct. According to what I read, they were Egyptian made with enough US-made internal parts to meet legal requirements.
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I heard you need to have at least 10 components that are US made.

Now, is that for a regular MISR or a MISR-10 or MISR-90?

As a matter of fact, what do the different MISR denotions mean?

Thanks everyone!
 
MISR= Military Industries Sporting Rifle.
I took a harder look at mine and it was imported by PARS International.

Chinese internals will not work in an Egyptian rifle without some fitting.
When I installed the US made parts in my rifle I had to use a set designed to fit Bulgarian/Romanian/Hungarian stamped receiver rifles.
I can't remember, but I think I got my US parts kit from K-Var.
 
Guys, check out AK-forums. They claim the MISR-90 was just that, made with Chinese internals.

As to the Pars,. here's the poop.

Imported the ARM and RML model rifles from 1993 to1995. The model RML came in 2 barrel lengths 16" and 20". The ARM was imported with 16" barrels only. In the top picture is the 16" barreled late import model RML. The lower picture is of a early import 20" barreled RML. The early imports of RML rifles had threaded barrels and the 20" barreled model had a bipod attached. The later imported RML rifles had the threads turned off the end of the barrel and the 20" barreled rifle didn't have a bipod. The later import ARM and RML rifles were advertised in the Shotgun News as being "California Legal". This was because of the ban the state of California passed on threaded barrels on semi automatic rifles. Barrel diameters were the same for all Maadi regardless of the model or length. ARM and RML rifles were imported with 5rd mag,cleaning kit in the buttstock,cleaning rod under the barrel,manual,sling, and certificate. All ARM and RML rifles were imported with laminated thumbhole stocks and handguards.

Regarding the MISR-90, here it is

When a ruling by the Teasury Dept. banned the import of Chinese guns and ammo in April,1994 there were thousands of MAK-90 rifles in bonded warehouses awaiting release from customs. The importers petistioned the Treasury Dept. to release these rifles for sale as they were in the country when the import ban went into effect. They were denied but were allowed to sell the rifles as parts kits if the receivers were destroyed. So there were ads in the Shotgun News for these MAK-90 parts kits for 2 years with very few takers as there were no receivers being imported or made in the USA. The price on the kits dropped from $200 to $39 during the 2 years the ads ran. So Century Arms bought almost all the MAK-90 parts kits and produced the model MISR-90 rifle. Which was a Maadi receiver that had all other parts from a Chinese MAK-90 parts kit added to make a complete rifle. The first batch of MISR-90 rifles assembled looked like a piece of crap. Like all Chinese AK rifles the MAK-90 parts kits have a barrel that has 19mm diameter barrel shank that is pressed into the barrel trunion of the receiver. The Maadi receivers barrel truninon being a AKM rifle had a barrel trunion with the hole in it for a barrel with a 23mm in diameter barrel shank. So a 1.5mm thick steel sleeve was needed to attached the Chinese barrel to the Maadi receiver. This resulted in the first manufactured MISR-90 rifles looking like these were assembled with a hammer by monkeys. There were large scratches and gouges on the barrel,sleeve,barrel trunion,rear sight,and sides/bottom of the receiver. While this didn't effect the function of the rifle it looked bad and then combine this with the black painted Maadi receiver with all the other parts of the rifle being blued it looked funny. The second batch of MISR-90 rifles made, Century Arms imported Maadi receivers that didn't have the barrel trunion installed. The barrels were removed from the barrel trunion of the MAK-90 kit and the Chinese barrel trunion was riveted in the Maadi recevier. So this eleminated all the scratches. As you can see from the pic below the two versions of the MISR-90 rifle are easy to spot by the pattern of the rivets that held the barrrel trunion in the receiver. The top is the Maadi pattern and the lower one the Chinese pattern.

And, here's the link

http://home.midsouth.rr.com/ak47ak74/page_4.htm

Ash
 
Ash, that is great information, more than I knew about the Maadi rifles.
Being as Century did the assembly on the Maadi MISR 90 rifles, I am going to stick with my assessment that there are dimensional differences between Eastern European AKM rifles and Chinese AKM rifles.
Leave it to Century to 'make' things fit,,,,,,,;)
 
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