Mace or Spray recommendations for my mother?

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Hello again people! I have an issue here. I am concerned about my mom since my dad recently passed away. I dont think she would be comfortable carrying a gun, and quite frankly I dont think she could use it if she needed to. so thats a bad idea. I dont know how to say this, but mom isnt exactly ugly. so I am worried about thugs, perverts, theives, etc.....so I am wanting to find some sort of method of self defense for her. I know NOTHING about Mace or personal protection sprays. but I am thinking this might be a good idea for her to carry in case of an attacker. what are some ideas you foks can provide? what are good types of sprays? where can I get them? I just want her to be able to ward off an attacker somehow so she can get away and get help, call 911 or just get away to safety.

what can you folks tell me about this? mace or any other mode of protection?

I am open to any suggestions.

Thank you! :)
 
Freeze +P. I used it when I was deputy and it worked great on all but one person.

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Another good idea is to see if your mom is interested in a self defense class. They can be great if you find a good instructor.
 
That kimber Lifeact looks interesting. I check out their website. that looks like quite a defense spray!
 
rule number 1 when giving a woman pepper spray . you more then likely have more of a interest of her carrying then she has to carry it.

do not get something to throw in the purse or pocket . she will forget it loose it not be able to get to it in time. the kimber life act is a gimick and only has 2 shots . what if she has 3 attackers and misses both times?

while Fox Labs is the best for 2oz and up canisters you need to get her a keychain modle . something that is always in her hands , wont get lost and she will see and acknowledge everyday.

get a her The Sabre Red or Sabre 3 in 1 keychain model .

Sabre Red is 2,000,000 SHU over 200,000 out of nozzle shu .
1.33% Major Capsaicinoids . you get as many bursts from a small .69 oz keychain modle as you would from a 2 of any other.


Sabre 3 in 1 is a 2,000,000 SHU OC mixed with 1% CS tear gas.
with .13% capsaicinoids. good nasty stuff .


my wife carries the 3 in 1 and everyday she works in south philly and it hasnt failed her yet ,

i carry a different modle of sabre red and a 3 oz of Fox Labs every day,
 
Stay away from "Mace" or "CN" based stuff (even mixtures).

It is a chemical irritant designed to work on healthy young people. If someone is under the influence or have a head cold, it might not work on them.

It also degrades over time into a harmless mist . . .

Pure pepper spray stays good almost forever ( just give it a shake if it sits in your desk drawer ) until you use it once (I'm looking at this from a civilian usage POV - you LE folks can afford to have a bottle of OC fail, but a civilian most likely cannot).

After that, I'd buy a new cannister, just to be on the safe side.
 
Freeze works good but nothing has put the hurt on me or anyone I used it on like FOX. That stuff is 5.3million SHU and when I got sprayed with it to get qualified to carry it I hurt for 3 days. I've been sprayed several times with DefTec and it was nothing like FOX and Freeze runs a close second.
 
freeze + P is pretty much Sabre 3 in 1 except sabre 3 in 1 is easier to get and comes in more configurations .
 
you can feel free to private message me with any questions cause this thread will die quick because there is no knife forum and thats all they talk about here.
 
i guess i drank the kimber kool-aid i think it's a good user friendly product that offers some desirable features like minimal blow-back in a windy situation and a added amount of impact/range given the delivery system, bought one for my wife and she clips it to her belt when walking through the parking lot at night from work
 
Sabre Red DPS Cone Fog Spray 2 ounce size

Fox Labs 5.3 2 ounce cone spray

You can get both at www.galls.com

www.defensedevices.com

For a very long time I carried key ring sprays. After reading a training manual for a combination OC spray/kubotan class I changed my mind.


I dont like key ring canisters because i have never seen one that had a wide enough impact patern and they dont put out as much spray per shot as the 2 ounce model. As one OC instructor pointed out the spray pattern is so pathetic that you could block it with the palm of your hand. YOu cant say the same for a cone or high volume fogger. Large pattern and it does not matter if you have eye glasses on or not. Your going to get it in your lungs and all over your face and it cant be blocked by the hand or arm of a subject.

For example the 1/2 ounce saber canister empties 15 grams of OC in about 25 seconds.

The Sabre MK2 and MK3 canister empty about 60 grams of OC in about 7 seconds.

Counter Assault makes a fogger spray that empites 90 grams of OC in 5 seconds.

So with each 1/2 second shot you are going to hose the person down when using a 2 ounce can.

My wife keeps the 2 ounce can in a specific outside pocket in her purse and she keeps it in her hand when walking alone. Better to have a 2 ounce can with you that works than a 1/2 ounce that gives a false sense of security.

If you want something on your keys get a kubotan.
 
I like the small lifeact unit and carry one myself. The poster above who mentioned "3 attackers" has a point, but pepper spray would be hard to deploy against more than one attacker anyway. Teach your mom some E&E also.

I got my mom a Spitfire keychain spray and a Kimber Lifeact 2-shot unit. The spitfire has a nice conical pattern and allows 8 half-second shots or 4 seconds continuous spray, it's accessible and she will have it right there in parking lots.

The lifeact packs a wallop and sits in a pocket on the side of her purse.

Total cost about $55.
 
She might appreciate a Taser C2 with an LED flashlight and laser sight.

Easy to use, fashionable and comes in various designer colors. Once she shows this off to her girlfriends my bet is they'll want to get one too.

 
True, but three determined attackers with the "drop" on someone only armed with OC have the definite advantage!
 
Son,
Im not being a wise guy here, but first I would sit with mom and tell her your fears, and use that word not the PC word concerns. Get her involved in the decision and show her the options and education you have gathered.Then you have a chance of her buying into her own defense.
Good luck- she just might want a gun!!!!!
 
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She might appreciate a Taser C2 with an LED flashlight <u>and laser sight</u>.<br>
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Easy to use, fashionable and comes in various designer colors. Once she shows this off to her girlfriends my bet is they'll want to get one too. <br>
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those are useless to civillians . as soon as the cycle is over with you can get right up and run your heart out towards the person who just tased you . you dont get knocked out and you dont get dazed you are 90% fine . they only work for police because they cuff the person directly after the cycle is over. pepper spray you are taking that 45 ride regardess if you feel the pain or not . your eyes are useless.
 
That kimber Lifeact looks interesting. I check out their website. that looks like quite a defense spray!
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Stay away from them you WILL miss the target under stress and you only have two shoots! go with Fox or sabre red and you will be good.
 
ray, it points pretty easily and patterns pretty wide even at 6 or 7 feet. Have you seen any pics of targets hit with it?

Most people on here can shoot a gun...I imagine they could probably manage to hit someone with a spray that spreads out to 2 feet at 7 feet distance.
 
2 shots is still two shots. only carry a derringer dont carry something with more then two bullets.
 
This is all very useful. Thanks for the thread. It answered several questions which I hadn't quite formulated yet.
 
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