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Magnum Research .44 Mag -Insane?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by The Grand Inquisitor, Oct 12, 2004.

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  1. The Grand Inquisitor

    The Grand Inquisitor Member

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    At the local Scheels (big sporting goods store with firearms) has a Magnum Research "Desert Eagle" *shudder* in .44 Magnum. The pistol is g*d awful ugly with the tackiest silver/crome finish you could imagine. Besides the fact that the thing should be cast to hell, ins't the idea of a .44 magnum auto loader dangerous in practice and in theory?

    Even if it is safe, it's still ugly enough to send to hell.
     
  2. wally

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    Nah, its just the little brother of the .50 DE which has its own thread going at the moment.

    They also make the runt of the litter in .357 magnum.

    --wally.
     
  3. hksw

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    What makes you think that? Gas op semi auto rifles (in rifle calibers) have considerable higher pressures.

    Mine work fine.
     
  4. Feanaro

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    In a normal delayed blowback pistol, the idea might be insane. But the gas operation of a Desert Eagle is perfectly safe for .44 Magnum or worse/better.
     
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    Desert Eagle 44 mag.

    Finding the appropriate ankle holster is the hard part with these monsters!!!! :p :D
     
  6. Standing Wolf

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    Nope. The pistol is actually quite accurate and reliable, albeit only with full power loads. To my eye, it's horrendously ugly and bulky; truth to tell, however, it's definitely a recoil tamer.
     
  7. Black Snowman

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    My Brother (bless him) gave me a 50 Desert Eagle a few years back for Christmas. It's a ton of fun at the range. I used ammo costs as an excuse to get a 44 mag barrel for it. Even reloading .44 Mag ammo is way cheaper than .50 AE.

    A friend has the .357 Mag version. Full house loads come back on target scary fast. Feels like shooting a 22.

    Not for everyone, but some people like them. Give me mine in basic black or the original stainless frame and black everything else :)

    With your weak opinions and timid delivery style I can see why you took the handle of "The Grand Inquisitor" :neener:
     
  8. Rembrandt

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    QUOTE: "At the local Scheels (big sporting goods store with firearms) has a Magnum Research "Desert Eagle" *shudder* in .44 Magnum. The pistol is g*d awful ugly with the tackiest silver/crome finish you could imagine. Besides the fact that the thing should be cast to hell, ins't the idea of a .44 magnum auto loader dangerous in practice and in theory? Even if it is safe, it's still ugly enough to send to hell."





    Sounds like you've pretty much formed an opinion about Desert Eagles, nothing anyone says will change that. Must be more to your anger than you're telling us....as a child were you molested by a Desert Eagle?
     
  9. Gixerman1000

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    I have one in 50ae, it has never given me any trouble, I love it. :evil:
     
  10. The Grand Inquisitor

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    I'm glad you decided to insult my handle, you really figured me out - I chose this screen name because I really thought it would be manly and forceful.

    In fact, I picked the nick because of the Grand Inquisitor in Dostoevsky's novel "The Brothers Karamazov", perhaps if you read a bit more, you'd have figured it out.

    Yes, I do think Desert Eagles are awful, but I was honestly unsure about the safety of an autoloader in .44 mag. A friend had told me that the pressure of the round was potentially too much and would cause too much stress onhere. the mechanisms and leave it open to breaking.

    I'm not trolling here.
     
  11. 45R

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    DEs are so much fun! Try shooting that baby strong hand and weak hand :)
     
  12. P95Carry

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    Awe shucks .. forget the DE ... go for mag' Research's BFR ... in 45-70 ..... grin guaranteed!:D


    bfr02-s.jpg
     
  13. Black Majik

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    my experiences with the DE .44 have been pretty pleasant. The heavy gun reduces the perceived recoil of the .44 magnum round. And I do find it to be suprisingly quite accurate!

    Ergonomically, they do suck... fat ass grip, heavy as hell. the way they look is subjective.

    In the end, its either you like or hate the deagle

    :p
     
  14. 66gt350

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    I've got the DE in .357 and it one of the best handguns I've ever shot. there is very little recoil and it puts a tight grouping on the target.

    The only way I'll get rid of it...is if it pried from my cold dead hands!!!:D
     
  15. JNewell

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    I think your friend may be repeating gunshop commando stuff. I don't think there have been any reports of those kinds of mechanical failures with the DEs, and they've been around for many years now.
     
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    You think the chrome looks bad, you should see the gold plated one a local shop has. Thing just screams "PIMP DADDY!"
     
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    Didn't mean it as an attack. Just a good-natured jab. The guns really are quite silly and largely impractical. Of course that could be said about a great many things. I've always liked your posts and have not a thing against you T.G.I. :) I was hopping the :neener: would express the good-natured connotation I was going for which is so easily lost in print.

    If people didn't have opinions the world would be a very drab place.
     
  18. Drjones

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    Why would you think that?


    And as for your question as to whether the DE is "insane," as an owner of a DE in .44 mag, I can say that, yes, it IS "insane."

    It is insanely fun. :)

    Surprisingly, of the several girls that I've taken shooting for their first time over the past few months, all of them liked my DE the best.

    That and my 12 ga shotgun.

    Go figure..... :)
     
  19. Jake

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    "A friend had told me that the pressure of the round was potentially too much and would cause too much stress onhere. the mechanisms and leave it open to breaking"


    I'll openly admit that I'm no expert on firearms design so your friend may be somewhat right if we were talking about a high pressure round in a normally designed pistol. If nothing else, I would think the amount of abuse the slide and locking mechanism would take would cause problems.
    However the Desert Eagle is not a normally designed pistol. It is a fixed barrel, gas-operated, rotating bolt design. The bolt system is similiar to the one in a AR series rifle. It also has dual recoil guide rods with 2 springs on each rod.
    And just as a side note they also used to make them in 41 Mag and 440 Cor-Bon as well as the current 357, 44 and 50 AE models.
     
  20. unspellable

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    pessure & other factors

    Pressure is not the only consideration here. A recoil action is operated by the cartridge impulse and pressure has nothing to do with it. The 9 mm Parabellum isn't all that far short of the 44 mag as far as pressure goes.

    The 44 mag simply has too much impulse and it's difficult to design a recoil operated action to handle it. Hence the gas operated action in which it's easy to adjust the port location and size and the piston dimensions to get just the amount of energy needed to cycle the action and not too much.

    Never heard of a Desert Eagle doing anything bad other than looking ugly. Might not be the best thing for pasture poodles at 300 yards.
     
  21. JNewell

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    well, certainly large ;)

    I hear there used to be a factory wheels kit for these? I was taught that "guns" were something that was crew-served. The DE may well qualify as a gun...:neener:
     
  22. roo_ster

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    I had an Army buddy with a DE in .50AE. What a hoot!!

    I though him a bit imbalanced, until I saw the .50AE AR upper he had to go with his Colt HBAR. Then I knew he was plum nuts!

    Did I say that ANYTHING in .50AE is a blast? It bears repeating.
     
  23. Coronach

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    I've handled one, never shot one.

    They always struck me as over-hyped, wildly impractical, expensive novelty guns.

    That Said, it is a free country, and the last time I checked no one had to run their purchases by me for an opinion. :D If it looks like fun, support the gun industry and buy it!

    Mike
     
  24. Drjones

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    No wonder you have the opinion you do.....you've never shot one!!!!
     
  25. Werewolf

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    DrJones told us that:
    Hmmmm... Have they been lying to us all along?

    Maybe size really does matter. :D
     
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