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Mailing factory ammo

Discussion in 'Legal' started by bikemutt, Aug 26, 2017.

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  1. bikemutt
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    I'm mailing a barrel to a friend in another state, I'd like to include a box of factory ammo in the package, any legal issues sending this USPS or common carrier like FedEx?
     
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    As Art noted, USPS is out.

    UPS rules:

    FedEx rules:
     
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    Thank you, ammo stays here.
     
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    I wanted to send an out-of-state friend some ammo a while back. I wound up just ordering him some ammo online and having it shipped to him. That way, someone else gets to deal with the Hassle Factor involved.
     
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    I've mailed ammo via UPS (NOT USPS) a bunch of times. Just mention to them that it needs an orm-d sticker, and it's good to go.
     
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    What Ironicaintit said. Be sure you go to a real UPS store, not Mialboxes etc., dba as UPS and ship the ammunition in a factory type container. That means the rounds don't touch each other. And like he said, it'll need an orm-d sticker.
     
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    Ammo doesn't have to be separated. I get bulk ammo all the time - and have sent some out - packed in double cardboard boxes.
     
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    As far as I know, loaded ammo just cannot fly. If it ships, it has to be shipped on the ground by UPS or FEDEX. USPS will slap a federal suit on you if you try to ship it and get caught. Spats McGee and me are on the same page, I've been doing that for years.
     
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    A friend recently asked my advice on getting ammo to another state. While UPS and FEDEX shipping is possible, it was hard to arrange as the local providers were either ignorant of how to do it or simply refused. The friend ended up declaring it and it traveled in their checked baggage without any problem.

    The specific airlines will have the rules for their procedure which complies with the applicable laws. Fortunately, it was a big airport and airline which knew the rules and did not throw up any obstacles.
     
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    Box ammo into a STRONG cardboard box.
    Use fiberglass shipping tape to reinforce every side and every seam.
    Weigh box.
    Measure box.
    Print online shipping label at UPS or FedEx.........choose "Ground" and "Adult signature required".
    Tape shipping label to box.
    Tape this to two sides of the box:
    LimitedQuanitySymbol.jpg

    Take box to any FedEx Office location or to any UPS Customer Service Center......(NOT The UPS STORE!) hand the box to the clerk and say "It's already labeled! Thank you!" ......and go on your way.

    If you took it to a "local provider" you didn't read any of the rules at UPS or FedEx.
     
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    Another way.

    Print out an ORM-D sticker and have UPS pick it up at your home. It will probably cost about $5 extra but you save your time and your gas.
     
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    What I posted above IS the ORM-D label.........it's the newer version of this:
    ORM-D_cartridges_small_arms.jpg

    Either one meets DOT requirements, but guess which one cause the least panic among the sheep?
     
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    "Adult signature required"

    Not required.
     
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    OK, I am curious. When is it necessary for an average gun owner (not a company) to ship ordinary ammo to another gun owner?

    A cartridge collector may want to ship a few rounds of some rare cartridge to a fellow collector, but some of this sounds like shipping cases of ordinary ammo, not rare specimens. Is there some ammo available in quantity in one part of the country that is not available in another? Or that is dirt cheap in the South and super expensive in the Midwest?

    Jim
     
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    "Adult Signature Required" means that the carrier is required to obtain an adults signature on delivery.....not that its required by any law.
     
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    Guys make gun trades all the time that include ammunition as part of the deal. Unfortunately they often don't know the legalities of mailing ammo.
     
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    I know that, but I was replying to this:

    "Print online shipping label at UPS or FedEx.........choose "Ground" and "Adult signature required"."
     
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    Which makes even less sense.o_O
    Both UPS and FedEx require ammunition to be shipped "Ground". Requiring the UPS/FedEx driver to obtain an adult signature is just good practice if not common sense.
    When shipping ammunition you need to be aware that in many localities it is illegal to sell or deliver ammunition to a person under age eighteen and handgun ammunition to someone under age 21. This is the reason nearly every online ammunition retailer requires "Adult Signature Required"..........they don't want to violate the law and "Adult Signature" is one method to show the signer is over age 21.

    But feel free to ship without signature. It means UPS will just leave it on the porch, or at a neighbors, or three streets over, or maybe not at all.
     
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    Which, in other than business settings, appears to be observed with all the frequency of "handle with care."

    But, I may have seen one too many deliveries just dumped on "the reliable neighbor's" doorstep and a post-it delivery notice on the intended door (and rarely with the actual delivery location noted). And that for the "big two." The smaller common cariers being even less predictable (<cough> DHL <cough>).
     
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    "This is the reason nearly every online ammunition retailer requires "Adult Signature Required""

    Over the years I've bought from at least a dozen different ammo retailers, and only ONE has required a signature. With my family and neighborhood I do not want to have a required signature, I would never get any deliveries!
     
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    Id say about a dozen differnt retailers for me too and I've never had signature required.
     
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    Not that long ago there was "ordinary ammo" that shouldn't have been "rare specimens." I had, if I remember correctly, 500 rounds of 17 Mach 4 ammo I no longer had a gun for and a guy was happy to by it and pay the shipping for it. Is 17 Mach 4 ammo back on the shelf; not that I've looked hard, but the last time I was in the local Cabela's there was none there.
     
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    OP question answered many times over. :)
     
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