Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by RedneckUF, Sep 26, 2007.
I like seeing this in the news....
The home owner faces no charges? Shooting through the door might lead to some problems without stand-your-ground laws.
Florida legislatively eliminated this duty to retreat requirement which is now the minority rule in the USA. Other states, e.g. Indiana, judicially eliminated the common law duty to retreat requirement over 150 years ago.
Shooting through a door or at a noise or any violation of Rule 4 is always hazardous as it may be UPS or the Avon Lady.
Really bad,actually,in most cases.In this case it sounds as though he 'assumed' the noise was a bad guy.
Kind of like hunters who fire into the brush at noises 'assuming' it's a deer or other prey.
I"m still glad that he had the means to defend himself and whomever was in his home.,
This is the 3rd "shoot through the door" incident we have had in as many weeks here on THR. This one seems like the least justified of the 3.
As I said with the others, hindsight is 20/20 and we weren't there, but for those of you that say you should never shoot through a door at a threat, what are you going to do when that door pops open and one, two, or multiple armed criminals are coming at you or shooting?
Obviously this is a hypothetical, but the more I have thought about it since these incidents, if someone is trying to kick in your door, has been asked to stop, and has been warned that you are armed, as was the case in the other 2 stories, I would be hard pressed to just let them kick it in, and THEN start defending my home, family, and self.
Before we jump too hard on the homeowner we should maybe wait for a better description of events. It never says that he fired through the door without warning - for all we know there was a discussion along the lines of:
Good Guy: "Whoever is in my garage needs to get out right now, I have a gun."
Thug: "So what, man, so do I - and I'm gonna use it on you!"
Good Guy: "Get out now!"
Thug: "I'm about to bust down this door and kill you!"
Good Guy: BANG BANG
It doesn't say how many shots were fired, but if he got two hits on a guy through a closed door that's a pretty good argument for the bad guy to have been right up against the door. There's also the possibility that there were no words said but that the bad guy was in the process of trying to kick in the door already. If it's me, at that point I'm going to assume that it isn't a neighbor coming over to borrow a cup of sugar.
Anybody starts beating on my garage door(which I gather from the article means the BG was already in the garage) at ten at night on a Tuesday is going to be up to no good. Neighbors knock on the front door, they don't break into the garage. What is with this shooting through doors recently. If this keeps up it's going to be SOP.
Does the home owner get to keep this?
was a bad guy and not one of his kids sneaking in or out, or his wife tripping over something.
If BG left the .38 at the scene, the .38 was likely in his hand and dropped.
If home owner opened the door he would have one hand on the knob and be at a disadvantage (assuming he's like me and hasn't taken "Tactical Door Opening" classes).
I doubt BG would have hesitated to shoot through the door if he saw it being opened.
It will be very interesting to see the balistics run on the .38 and see if this is indeed the guy who committed home invasion and murder just down the block.
ummm. . . . . .
my aunt in West Palm beach has a high security (wrought iron) screen door as her inside garage door for when she leaves the garage door open during the frequent bouts of gorgeous Florida weather. If the homeowner in this instance fired through one of those it is likely he recognized the threat and did not fire blindly as some of you have opined. Perhaps we should get ALL the facts before passing judgement on Mr. Pettis.
Why would we do that?
I'll just give my humble amen to that comment.
IMHO shooting through doors is still pretty dumb- gotta see the target.
Anyone else think this was strange? How many houses have bedrooms that open into the garage?
I'm of the opinion that shooting blindly is not a good idea under most circumstances, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially if there were recent home invasions/murders. I suspect that the article would have mentioned if he was facing charges. I'm surprised at how unbiased the article sounds, kudos to the reporter for leaving politics at the door.
Houses that have been remodeled and/or added on to. The bedroom might have been a dining room in a previous life.
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