Man Shoots Two Mormons Going Door To Door

[Strings]

>Where & when was this? That's not how JW's preach. Are sure they were real JW's & not some punks trying to imitate JW's in order to get in your house?<

Well, if they were "punk imposters", then they REALLY blew the curve on age groups. The one I remember best was an elderly couple, who looked to be in their 70s at least. I chalk it up to simple over-zealousness...

If it happenes here, at MY home, there'll be a quick call to the local Kingdom Hall (or maybe even a polite visit).

 

[redneck2]

Two points.

First, it takes a ton of courage and guts to walk up to someone's house knowing you'll probably be treated rudely at best. These are some people that live their faith, whether you agree or not. I'd much rather have a JW or Mormon live next to me than Willie the Gang Banger. I think the Bible's pretty clear about living your faith

Second...these people can be a great source of entertainment

For example, pop open a beer and offer them one.

"I can't...alcohol is a sin"

"OK, what was Jesus first miracle???"

"Uh.....turning water into wine at the wedding feast"

"Sounds to me like Jesus bought for the party. If Jesus never sinned and had wine, how can alcohol be a sin??"

Typically, they'll ramble off something like "well, things were different then"

Ok, so if things were different and this part of the Bible is wrong, then it can all be wrong. After all, you just said things are different..

Every time they come to my house, they leave shaking their head without answers

Actually, they're quite easy to debate against and win. They typically want to pick and choose the specific parts they think are right and dismiss the others

 

[Correia]

Before anybody starts wanting to shoot the Mormons, three of your moderators here are LDS. Keep that in mind. And I’ve always struggled with the love and forgiveness end of things…

Let me explain a bit.

LDS missionaries are not paid. We pay our way. They go for 2 years. Usually beginning at the age of 19. They have a set of rules they need to obey while they are out there. If you haven’t had experience with it you would be really surprised just what they give up. Pretty much most everything that you would normally do for fun. You work constantly. You get part of one day off a week, and you use that to do laundry and write letters home.

The door to door thing is called Tracting. Tracting is the single most futile way to meet people, and we are encouraged to do anything other than tracting to find people to teach. However the reason we still go door to door is that we are expected to work all day, every day. So if you have some time that isn’t set aside for doing service, teaching, or other stuff, you keep working, and sometimes that means knocking on doors. It is a faith thing, and Mormon missionaries believe in trying to reach everybody that they can during their mission, hence the tracting.

If you don’t want to listen, just tell them you aren’t interested, or don’t answer the door. There is no need to be rude. In my two years, I had two guns pointed at me, was chased by crack dealers, had a gun flashed at me by a banger, and was attacked by multiple dogs, including the biggest most evil German Shepherd in the universe. In my mission (Alabama, Birmingham) we had two missionaries get shot while I was there. (car jacking, one in the wrist, the other in the hand). We had about twenty of us get shot at. A few years before I got there we had an Elder murdered in a hit and run, suspect never found. I had a companion get severely concussed by a beer bottle tossed from the back of a moving pickup.

Yep, no need to be rude. They get plenty of it anyway.

Are there jerks who become missionaries? Sure, just like there are jerks in every single faith and job on Earth. The rules we agree to live by out there are very difficult. (I gave up GUNS for two years people) but we volunteer because it is something that we believe we are supposed to do. Take that for whatever that’s worth.

And for some of you folks posting here, yep, it sure is a funny joke when an innocent kid gets murdered. Let’s all have a good laugh while his family weeps. I’ll refrain from what I want to say to some of you because I’m supposed to hold to a higher standard as one of the mods here.

Religion thread closed.

 

[spacemanspiff]

What else...guns. JWs aren't pure pacifists in the Amish sense. They believe in self defense, although many are rather..."sheeple oriented" but that's not uncommon among any churchgoing population. Hunting and even CCW isn't forbidden so long as it's legal. If there is a threat from *animals* they'll go armed while door-knocking, such as trying to get to back-woods Alaska or some other place deep in bear country, but they'd make sure any such are as unobtrusive as possible and put away unless the critter risk is quite high.

heh... well the gun issue for JW's up here in alaska is kind of an individual thing. most are okay with hunting, and target shooting, and defense against four-legged beasts. and the research i have done with other JW's in recent years has revealed that the JW organization is rather vague on the carrying of guns for self defense from two legged vermin. the most they will say is that they dont encourage the taking of a job where carrying a weapon is a requirement, with the argument that one may be forced to take anothers life, and have what they call 'bloodguilt', the killing of an innocent person.
however, they are strong advocates of the need in this day and age for law enforcement. i'm not sure if the two positions are contradictary.

i've met quite a few JW's that are very anti-gun as well. and the publications Watchtower and Awake tend to use heavily biased sources about gun violence such as from VPC and Brady.