Man with concealed-carry permit kills robbery suspect in Cleveland
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Archer1945
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I have to disagree with those who say if this had been a police officer it would have turned out differently. I want to know on what planet you've been living. If this perp had been shot by an LEO Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and, who knows who else, would have been demanding a federal investigation, the ACLU would probably be looking to file civil rights violation lawsuits, etc. Cleveland should be rejoicing, this private citizen just saved them a whole bunch of money which they would have had to shell out when some time in the future this kid was shot by an LEO.
Archer1945
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Just finished sending an email to Kevin O'Brien about his very well written editorial about the Arthur Buford shooting. Not only is such an editorial in the Plain Dealer more than a little interesting but Mr O'Brien also happens to be the Deputy Editorial Director.
fast eddie
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I was gonna ask this but atek3 beat me to it.
On another note; Does this mean the "time to crime" for this 'youth' was 15 years?
Sounds like Mr. Wells drew when he saw the kid start to draw. That's not the same as the kid had the drop on him. Then it all becomes about mindset.
Mr. Wells was drawing as fast as possible intending to defend himself. The kid was probably relying on the the fear factor of dragging out his piece and scaring the homeowner into submission.
Not that amazing that Mr. Wells could win, given the probable difference in their attitudes.
Mr. Wells was drawing as fast as possible intending to defend himself. The kid was probably relying on the the fear factor of dragging out his piece and scaring the homeowner into submission.
Not that amazing that Mr. Wells could win, given the probable difference in their attitudes.
I can understand the family's mindset, if only in an intellectual sort of way.
In certain demographics, criminality amongst young males is now expected, perhaps almost accepted. If the adolescent sons of every other unwed mother up and down the street also have criminal rap sheets a fair fraction of the size of the local phone book, the stigma begins to lessen.
They've given up and just raise their families around it, and it's just part of their life. The point is no longer to prevent the criminality, it's simply to cope with it, and hope that their young males merely survive it. And the brief sojourns in between prison stays, and the sky-high out-of-wedlock childbirth rate is more than adequate to ensure the next generation arrives.
The notion of CCW outrages them, as they view the licenses as hunting permits on their kin.
Too bad.
Too bad for us, to have to put up with that, I mean...
In certain demographics, criminality amongst young males is now expected, perhaps almost accepted. If the adolescent sons of every other unwed mother up and down the street also have criminal rap sheets a fair fraction of the size of the local phone book, the stigma begins to lessen.
They've given up and just raise their families around it, and it's just part of their life. The point is no longer to prevent the criminality, it's simply to cope with it, and hope that their young males merely survive it. And the brief sojourns in between prison stays, and the sky-high out-of-wedlock childbirth rate is more than adequate to ensure the next generation arrives.
The notion of CCW outrages them, as they view the licenses as hunting permits on their kin.
Too bad.
Too bad for us, to have to put up with that, I mean...
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I am in Cleveland now visiting family
All the editorials in the Plain Dealer for the past couple of days pretty much agree with us. Some friends of this criminal have a memorial to him where some have left flowers, baloons, etc. My family lives on the other side of town, if I had any idea of how to get there, I know what I'd like to leave there. A sign that says this punk got what he deserved!
The gentleman who defended himself has broken windows in his home and is now living elsewhere.
All the editorials in the Plain Dealer for the past couple of days pretty much agree with us. Some friends of this criminal have a memorial to him where some have left flowers, baloons, etc. My family lives on the other side of town, if I had any idea of how to get there, I know what I'd like to leave there. A sign that says this punk got what he deserved!
The gentleman who defended himself has broken windows in his home and is now living elsewhere.
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