Mass Shooting Correlation or ???

[Stevel]

I've been alive for a few circulations of the Earth around the Sun. While not a conspiracy theorist it seems when gun control legislation is introduced there appears to be a higher number of shootings that are reported. We've had 3 mass shootings happen in the last 3 weeks.

Has any research been done on a correlation between the introduction of gun control laws and the preponderance of mass shootings? Or the introduction of gun control laws and an increase in reports of firearms related violence?

 

[TransAmConvert]

The events are the same, they're just reporting it all nationally. Last summer when 10+ people per day were being shot in Chicago, not a peep.

Just like about 5 years ago there was constant reporting of child abductions. Turns out there were no more abduction cases than usual (very few) but the reporting of them went up and drove a hysteria. Then kids who didn't want to go to school were making fake reports that a guy in a van tried to grab them. For awhile we had police cars following the buses. Total media driven hysteria with no basis in fact. But they got their ratings up, didn't they?

 

[1942bull]

I do not think there is any correlation with incidence of shootings. Reporting of shootings seems to be based upon some fickle policies of the media. If it will get more hits on the news website they report it. If not, they don’t.

 

[Pat Riot]

A lot of what the media reports and sensationalizes depends on politics and agenda.
I am sure that if it was proven that agenda driven news caused death and injuries and the party in power wanted limits on the media that reports of death and injury due to agenda driven news reporting would decrease rapidly.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I believe advocacy journalism is a real thing, a self righteous version of old fashioned yellow journalism "in a good cause" of course.

 

[defjon]

It's agenda.

If it wasn't then we would all be hearing a lot more about the blood bath in Chicago on the daily (a city with extreme gun control that had eliminated cash bail and released a lot of folks that looted the magnificent mile).

 

[.455_Hunter]

With our case here in Boulder, they seem to be a self-fullfilling prophecy- ranting and raving about gun control leads to an environment where such an event occurs.

 

[lightman]

It sure seems like it happens more when gun control is discussed and it would be easy to make up a conspiracy theory around it. But I think the real conspiracy is in the reporting.

 

[George Dickel]

I remember some years back the media was reporting on all the incidents with train wrecks and cars being hit at railroad crossings. Also some years back airplane crashes were the event du jour, seemed like airplanes were falling from the skies. Shark attacks are another topic that springs up every so often. With the anti-gun media they will always try to find another "mass shooting" to bolster their contention that guns should be banned. I receive the NRA magazine American Rifleman and really enjoy reading their The Armed Citizen section. Too bad the national media overlooks these incidents where a gun saved a person.

 

[BreechFace]

When journalists become activists, truth becomes the lie that gets believed, free speech is only free when it's controllable, and society depends on spoon fed news; our news will become self-fulfilling to the desires of societal pressures and not reality.

Such is what we are witnessing today, and the uptick in coverage of "mass" deaths involving a gun is just one example of this. Do some research on what they categorize a "mass" shooting event as, the justified circumstances to be able to use that term is very minimal.

 

[defjon]

Anti gun lobby groups (Bloomberg etc) spend oodles of cash in the media to push the agenda that guns are much more likely to magically injure household members than ever be successfully used to save you and your family's lives.

We know, of course, that this is hogwash but it would be nice if we could get this message out as well. Often successful gun use involves having a gun, which the criminals flee from without a shot being fired. How under reported do you suppose those incidents are?

I too am an nra member and read the column on successful civilian self defense stories involving firearms. I'm not sure I've ever really seen these stories in mainstream media.

Anything that shows guns in a positive light seems to be avoided. They want a definite stigma and have for decades.

However, reality cares little for the "individual truths " of the modern Zeitgeist!

When the S hits the F, as it has been for the last year, what do we see? Tons of brand new gun owners. Single moms, minorities, folks who previously had no interest in self defense are realizing that their safety is in their own hands.

Bare grocery shelved, shortages, curfews, lock downs, police defunded, all this dystopian garbage gets folks scared. And scared folks want to protect themselves.

This is a huge moment to reach out. Millions of new gun owners. If each one got involved in the cause of freedom, of gun ownership, our rights would be secure for our children children.

 

[FROGO207]

It seems as the media has an agenda and it is slanted to anti gun today. The more reporting and the more wannabes that act on this for a potential of 15 minutes of fame for whatever reason the more anti gun the media gets. Self fufilling conclusions and microscopic reporting of "facts" are hurting all legal gun owners permanently.

ETA: I am ridiculed by my liberal acquaintances that I have my head in the sand as I have stopped watching broadcast and cable television services. I refuse to enrich those that are anti firearm or anti 2A.

 

[theotherwaldo]

I think that it's a case of having an agenda and then finding events that fit the agenda so that you can fill the airways with that event incessantly to support your agenda.

When you have over three hundred million people, someone is going to freak out and do something that you can use... .

 

[wiscoaster]

"Correlation" and "Conspiracy" both begin with the same letter of the alphabet. What you see depends on your point of view and how you make sense of what you see.

 

[theotherwaldo]

-And if that freak-out gets enough press attention, some other freak will decide to do a freak-out, too... .

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Has any research been done on a correlation between the introduction of gun control laws and the preponderance of mass shootings?

Gun control legislation gets introduced every year. So....no correlation.

 

[milsurpguy]

My wife hates conspiracy theories and she can't believe these are random.
Multiple mass shootings while bills are in the house and actually have a chance at passing?
And it's the same old story. Guy had a long history of mental illness, had all the red flags, history of violence, the police can't do anything, I haven't seen it confirmed but he seems to be someone who you'd expect to be taking those funky mind altering anti depression drugs, you know the ones they advertise on the TV and the announcer has to read off a laundry list of bazaar side effects.
I think the unibomber was the original test subject.

 

[P5 Guy]

At least 20 mass shootings have taken place in the two weeks since the metro Atlanta spa attacks left 8 dead (msn.com)

I never saw a report on 18 of these 20.

 

[bdickens]

Anothernewb, please tell us you aren't serious. What you have written is just not something a rational person would come up with. Get help.

The idea of hijacking passenger jets and crashing them into office buildings is just not something a rational person would come up with.

Oh, wait....

 

[Double Naught Spy]

At least 20 mass shootings have taken place in the two weeks since the metro Atlanta spa attacks left 8 dead (msn.com)

I never saw a report on 18 of these 20.

Well, obviously not a conspiracy to hide the events from the public. They all made the news.

 

[P5 Guy]

They all made the news.

Made cnn but not a peep on the local broadcast stations out of Tampa FL

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Made cnn but not a peep on the local broadcast stations out of Tampa FL

And should they? They aren't really local news to Tampa if they didn't happen in the Tampa area. The local Tampa TV stations can only broadcast so much of the news that happens around the country in their short windows of broadcasting the news. The significance of local is that they provide you mostly local news.

 

[P5 Guy]

Tampa still has ABC; CBS, NBC nightly news.
Lester Holt didn't mention 18 of the 20.
Just Atlanta and Boulder, the others not much national attention.

 

[Stevel]

Tampa still has ABC; CBS, NBC nightly news.
Lester Holt didn't mention 18 of the 20.
Just Atlanta and Boulder, the others not much national attention.

Interesting.

In looking at a couple of the previously mentioned stories there are 2 characteristics which are present in several that may have limited national exposure.

1. "Mass Shootings" technically are supposed to be where the shooter does not know the victims, such as the Soopers shooting in Boulder. Therefore many of the gang related or familial incidents wouldn't qualify.

2. Those which can be used to sow racial / religious / social division tend to be more publicized. You'll notice when it is a white aggressor race is often mentioned. When a black or other poc is the perpetrator, race is not mentioned.

 

[Sistema1927]

Not all "mass shootings" are equal. Example: Yesterday morning, the news blared with "another mass shooting, this time in Los Angeles!" Turns out that after the dust settled that 1) it wasn't an "angry white guy", and 2) it wasn't a random attack, rather a guy settling his grievance with people he knew. The news media got real quiet once it didn't fit their narrative.