Maverick 88 issues

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berettabomber

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I bought a Maverick 88 about a week ago because I needed a shotgun to take into the salt water marshes here in South Texas to chase ducks. A buddy of mine bought one and used during dove season with only minor complaints, it had a nasty habit of ejecting the spent shell and the brand new shell waiting to be chambered at the same time resulting in no follow up shots. When I bought mine I took the time to make sure all my ammo cycled through it before I took it out into the field, every single round was tested. At first it wasn't doing too bad, and then a shell jammed in the barrel and I had to take the barrell off to get the spent shell out. Other times I had to try a little too hard to get the pump handle back to eject the shell. My brother also has a Maverick 88 and yesterday he had the exact same problems that I was having and he was using brand spankin' new black cloud ammo so I knew it wasn't the ammo. Has anyone else out there that has a Maverick 88 had the same problem? Or, does anybody have any ideas on how to fix said problems of not being able to eject spent shells and getting double ejections? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
That suprises me because i have a Maverick 88 with the 18.5" barrel and i have been far from gentle with it. I've shot every kind of ammo through it from 2 3/4 bird shot to 3" slugs, I've let it go without cleaning, it has spent most of its life in my various vehicles, including one that i flipped into a very muddy creek.

So far i have only had one instance where my follow up shot got ejected along with the empty, and that i just chalked up to abuse.
 
That is very suprising to me. I have one as well and it has been nothing but great. The only thing I can think of is it maybe the ammo your shooting. Mine never has done that to me. I even ran wolf dirty waterfowl ammo through it and it ate it up. Wish I could be of more help partner!
 
Surprising

The only trouble I've EVER had out of mine is that a buckshot shell leaked the little white balls into my magazine, leaving me to have to clean out the inside.

Note that the magazine is not removable, too...

Udder'n that, I've not had the ejection/feeding trouble, nor the pump arm not working smoothly.

I suggest trying different ammo, since you're both using the same ammo and having the same trouble. I've always used Winchester and Remington 2 3/4" and 3" shells. I have a feeling that the shells you're using may be of too large a diameter. When the shell is fired, they may be "swelling," and that would explain why that one would get jammed in the barrel, and it would also explain why it's hard to get the pump arm to work after a shot sometimes. I can't explain the ejection/feeding trouble, though.
 
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I think that you will find that most problems involving near-simultaneous ejection of the empty shell and the loaded shell intended for the chamber are due to improper stroking (pumping) of the slide action.

Pump guns are meant to be cycled HARD and moderately fast. If a person tries to do a slow, smooth pump of the slide handle, they will likely cause it to jam or fail to feed the next shell into the chamber. Also, sometimes people "short stroke" the slide. Be sure to pump it all the way back and then all the way forward.

Lesson: Pump it like you're mad at the thing and trying to abuse it. It works better that way.
 
Upon a second reading of your original post, I have additional comments. The difficulty in ejecting spent shells is usually due to one of two things. 1. The chamber is too rough, or 2. The ammo being used.

The chamber can be easily polished by you. Remove barrel from gun. Use a bore or chamber brush with 00 steel wool wrapped around the brush. Insert brush into electric drill. Apply a few drops of oil to brush/steel wool and polish the chamber on low/medium speed for 10 to 15 minutes.

As for ammo, not all ammo is created equal. Some shells have a brass head (which is good). Many of the cheaper shells have a steel head which is not so good. The steel has a bad tendency to stick to the chamber walls when fired, thereby making extraction difficult.

I suggest that first you polish the chamber walls real well. This can only help regardless what ammo you are using. If that is not enough, try some different ammo. The absolute best ammo for reliability is Win AA or Rem STS target ammo. They have brass heads and are very consistent in quality.
 
I really appreciate everyone's help. But I'll know more if the ammo is the issure here pretty soon. I was shooting XPert steel shot #2's out of it and had problems but I just recently switched to Blackcloud. I'll have to try polishing the barrel like Pete said to do. A buddy of mine had a Winchester, the model number is leaving me at the moment, and used to be able to pump that sucker as fast a semi damn near. Well the action arm broke after one of the tac welds broke up top so he bought his Maverick 88. We went dove hunting(back in dove season) and he was having the same problems I'm having, I'm not sure if shells were getting stuck or not but I know he was having double ejections and he's been shooting pumps a lot longer than I have so I know his technique is good. The two shots I fired out of my shotgun with the black clouds were fine, but my brother borrowed some and he was having problems with them. I don't know if we got lemons or what but, I'm thinking about shooting Mossberg or Maverick Arms a letter asking them what they think the problem is. I'm not expecting Beretta or Benelli performance out of a $154 shotgun, but at the same time people buy pump shotguns because they are supposed to be reliable, and mine right now is anything but. And yes, before I even shot it I took it apart and gave it a very thorough cleaning and oiling.
 
berettabomber,

Yeah...I've seen the same things with Mossbergs, Brownings, Remington 1100s and Remington 870's - all of these died in the highly saline conditions of Texas Point (at least at times it's highly saline). In your case - South Texas - the water is always highly Saline, and that's why your Shimano Reels wear out much faster than the upper coast.

At least - that's the only common denominator I can find. I mean, all these shotguns were perfect when hunted in Freshwater - even when Iced. But...they died in the saltmarsh - just failed to work - jammed. Afterwards, when they were cleaned thoroughly they worked just fine.

As a result, I figure keeping a can of Rem-Oil handy and spraying the bolt and extractor between shoots might do the trick.

Hope this helps.

NASCAR
 
I have not had any problems with my 88 either. I use it for trap and pertty much have a great time with out any problems and have had the gun almost 3 years. I even e-mailed mossberg to see what slug barrel I could put on it. They had a nice reply and I copied it,so I wouldn't lose it. Must have put it some where speciel, cuz I can't find it. Has any one else put a rifled slug barel on there 88? have a safe and happy christmas holiday, Bob
 
I guess the first thing to check is if different ammo gives you the same problems, and if it does, I would suggest you disassemble it and polish all the metal surfaces that come into contact with the shell. If that doesn't work, call the manufacturer.
 
Necessary lesson

I want to preface this by saying that no one in particular is being singled out, so take this first point to heart.

Anyone with experience with a particular item (gun, toaster, car, etc.) of their own and possibly a few friend's examples is insufficient level of exposure to be able to make any blanket statements about the general production quality specifics of those items.
The miniscule number of the vast total mechanisms produced that any one layman can ever see will be dwarfed by the examples of troubled items seen by a repair specialist.

Layman opinions are very valuable when taken in context of personal experience that may be considered as a piece of a large puzzle, but any other value is purely anecdotal.
Everybody knows someone that lived to a ripe old age in spite of being a heavy smoker, and non-smokers have died from lung cancer without ever lighting a "coffin nail".

When you have a hard-to-diagnose problem, you need a specialist. If my Chevy has some problem that several shops haven't been able to cure, go to the Chevy mechanic with plenty of shop floor time, not the local quikie-lube wrench jockey.



Now, on to the problem at hand:
we have 5 shooters that have had no problems of consequence with their guns, plus a few tips about cleaning, lube, chamber roughness, etc., and all of those and a few other tips should be put into one gigantic generic posting that beginning searchers should use for a basic grounding of what to expect to be told in this sort of posting.

It reminds me of the generic article around fall that gives basic winterizing tips for your vehicle. You'll need the manual to know what you need to do to winterize an RV, though.

What details that everyone has posted about their own personal experience has gotten me closer to solutions for various conditions.
Removing a barrel to free a stuck shell is not a sign that necessarily proves a rough chamber, especially if it happens with only heavy loads. The chamber may be oversize, as one possibility, but I am betting that I would need to see the mechanical parts also to rule out any engagement problems with the parts. Combined problems are more common than you think.

Short stroking is probably not the big problem that may be presumed by some advisers, but is a slight possibility, along with weak pumping force.

I had a series of hard lessons all combined in one gun, and the totality of the combination would put any Detroit lemon to shame.
This Maverick may be able to approach that stellar example.

These guns need a good go-through with attention paid to the parts fit and engagement, but since you may have a warranty in effect, you might not want to spend money with me to improve your performance. If your gun is out of warranty or is not being properly repaired by the Eagle Pass repair facility, I will give it a try.
 
At first it wasn't doing too bad, and then a shell jammed in the barrel and I had to take the barrell off to get the spent shell out. Other times I had to try a little too hard to get the pump handle back to eject the shell. My brother also has a Maverick 88 and yesterday he had the exact same problems that I was having and he was using brand spankin' new black cloud ammo so I knew it wasn't the ammo.

I was shooting XPert steel shot #2's out of it and had problems but I just recently switched to Blackcloud.

I might suugest that the reason for the failure to eject problem might be that your using 3" shells in a 2-3/4 inch chambered gun or 3.5 inch shells in a 2-3/4 or 3 inch chambered gun. Check the markings on the barrel. If you're using shells that are longer then the chamber you will get spent hulls sticking the chamber/failure to eject.

Remember that hull length is the length of the FIRED shell. not the unfired shell. Check the box the ammo came in, it should say what's the (fired) shell length.
 
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