May have bought my Taurus PT-145 too soon...

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Looks like Taurus is coming out with an improved Millennium line, the Millennium Pro. While the slides will remain the same, the polymer lower will be reworked for all calibers, with a different mag release, slide release, and other improvements...according to Taurus

So, if you were waiting, you might want to wait *just* a bit more, unless you can get a deal on the older models...

Info may be posted on their website by the end of the month.

Read it in American Rifleman. I called to ask what the differences were...
 
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Thanks for the tip, Forseti. I've been putting off gettin one for over a year. A little while longer won't hurt.... :D
 
I have been putting getting one forever. I think a few more decades won't hurt.:D :p
 
As I understood it, the weak link was the actual composite of the polymer they used. I hope they correct that :scrutiny:
 
As I understood it, the weak link was the actual composite of the polymer they used. I hope they correct that
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I think that was corrected in about September 2001.

If they're changing the "look" of the PT-145, existing ones may drop in price, and that would pique my buying incentive.... :D
 
Sounds to me like it's a quiet design change, which carries with it a tacit admission of the fact that the original was indeed flawed. :evil:

Sorry guy's. I can't get enthused. It's a fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!! Once bitten, twice shy. Thang!!!!!! ;)
 
had the chance to buy a PT145, and passed

At the last gun show I saw them, most were the older serial numbers. I did find some I, J, K numbers, the J had a price tag of 358. I wanted one of these pretty bad, but I bought a Glock 23 for 375 instead:D . Who knows after the next generation PTs are around and out, may find a 45 cal in the collection, though I was thinking on saving for a Springfield or Kimber. Taurus had allthe features Iliked on the pistol, I hope they got it right this time.
 
Hmmm...

I think I'll give it a year or two to prove itself first.

If there would be no issues whatsoever by then, I'll definitely consider getting one of those Mil Pros myself. :D
 
Denfoote, I do not think there is a pistol made that has not experienced revisions to its design. Older the design, the greater the number of revisions over time. Most any complex manufactured item gets revised over time.

Since the slide (according to verbal info from Taurus Customer service) does not get revised, they are changing the "easy" stuff...items in the polymer lower. No complex re-machining or reprogramming a CNC machine, just a new mold. Again, thats just what I've been told, the proof is in the "seeing".

If this takes the current Millenium design, refines it, AND keeps the price about the same, this will be quite a bargain pistol. I do like my PT-145. I find it very easy to carry (partially due to the winter months requiring more clothing, but it is still a very light, safe-for-the-user gun). Price is quite good. I am not aware of any brand new .45 with the same weight, stainless steel slide, and ammo capacity for the same or less money.
 
Still carrying mine.

I will be keeping my eye out for the new model but rest assured I will continue to carry my existing PT145 daily. May own two one day.

Still shooting well. Smoothed out trigger and all the features I want.
 
Only words, both verbal and printed so far. They said end of January for the revised website.

Even so, they may wait until the middle of Feb for a "formal" announcement...that is when the Shot Show 2003 is held in Orlando.
 
Forseti,
Glock has not changed it's design, with the exception of the G36, which was an original new product. Not just a scale down or up of the G17.

I got burned by the PT-145. After only 650 rounds, the frame cracked right in the same place others did. I had my dealer send it off to Taurus and when it got back, I sold it and bought Trijicon night sights, and the minus connector for my then brand new G36. It has not missed a beat yet!!

Don't get me wrong, I loved my PT-145. Mine shot sub 2" groups at 25 yards!!! The design was flawed, that's all. Taurus never admitted that fact. My dealer still has the last one of the 6 he got in. 5 of them came back with cracked frames!!! He won't order any more. ;)

I still see PT145's with frame cracks at gun shows!! One lady got real red faced when I showed her the cracks on the back of her "NIB" Taurus!!! :evil:

By the way, have you found that magic signal yet????
 
What's Shot Show 2003?

I live in Orlando, and if it's worth seeing I'll have to go and have a look. What is it, a manufactures' show of concepts etc, like the manufacture auto show?
 
Glock has not changed it's design, with the exception of the G36, which was an original new product. Not just a scale down or up of the G17.
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That's just laughable, to say the least.

The Glock, besides not being the pinnacle of gun design, has undergone several modifications to small and large components, as well as frame changes, and they still have problems.

To say that a design revision is indicative of serious flaws is just silly, although it does happen sometimes.
If Taurus did have a problem, I could really care less if they do not care to prostrate themselves at the feet of gun owners, as long as they take steps to remedy the problem.

If you do not like, trust, or get warm fuzzies over the PT145, then move on and find something you do like.
 
Firing pin "upgrade"...Chicago mod "upgrade"...extractor cut "upgrade"...2nd Gen. frame "upgrade"...FG&R "upgrade"...

Nope, still the same ol' Glock as it ever was...

:evil: <--- right back atcha.
 
Denfoote, what are you refering to with the "magic signal" comment? (honestly don't know what you are referring to).

Hypothetically speaking, lets say that the polymer lower of the initial P-145's were too weak, and subject to cracking.

They claimed they fixed it with a revision to the design.

Next item...You have constantly complained that Taurus refused to admit a design flaw. NO company will formally claim a design flaw on ANYTHING anymore, especially a firearm. This clearly seems to have upset you in your dealings with the company. You should realize that In our new world of heavy litigation, everything made by everybody is always perfect until proved otherwise in a court of law. No company would dare whisper the words "design flaw", whether true or not, unless is was taken out of them by brute force in a courtroom. The potential for monetary damage with any admitted "design flaw" is just too great. The word "Repair" however, is not as damaging.

So relax about Taurus not admitting a design flaw. Even if they wanted to, they couldn't, not to you.

You may have sold a great (fixed) pistol when you got rid of your PT-145...you've already admitted it shot very accurately (so does mine). Shame you didn't give it a chance to prove its longevity with a few more "range" tests...you may have dumped a keeper.

Of course, if my PT-145 cracks in 600-700 rounds, you were right, and Taurus actually fixed nothing...however, I find that unlikely, as the dollar math of an unending warranty problem works against it...
 
wild billz,

The SHOT Show is an annual gun manufacturers to dealers event not open to the public. It takes place this year in Orlando around February 13th.

Manufacturers show their best and newest stuff and dealers figure out what they're going to buy and actually place orders. It's sort of like a livestock show.

Many wish the public could attend, but it's a business to business affair.

However, if you can talk your gun dealer into letting you go under his banner, you can probably get in. :D
 
If you do not like, trust, or get warm fuzzies over the PT145, then move on and find something you do like.
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Been there, done that, had one, got burned, read the book, seen the movie, found someone!!!!


It's called the Glock 36!!:rolleyes:

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http://www.seti-inst.edu/
 
Ah, now I get it, denfoote. You think my "handle" is a play on SETI.

Wrong. Its more subtle than that, but not too hard to figure out. Nothing relating to UFO's or aliens. Try again.
 
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