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McCain - I will back no gun control

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  1. ravnew

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    Taken from a thread on FSN



    McCain Says He Backs No Gun Control

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    By CALVIN WOODWARD

    Associated Press Writer

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    WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain declared Wednesday he believes in ``no gun control,'' making the strongest affirmation of support for gun rights in the GOP field since the Virginia Tech massacre.

    The Arizona senator said in Summerville, S.C., that the country needs better ways to identify dangerous people like the gunman who killed 32 people and himself in the Blacksburg, Va., rampage. But he opposed weakening gun rights and, when asked whether ammunition clips sold to the public should be limited in size, said, ``I don't think that's necessary at all.''

    GOP rival Rudy Giuliani, too, voiced his support for the Second Amendment on Wednesday, but not in such absolute terms. Once an advocate of strong federal gun controls, the former New York mayor said ``this tragedy does not alter the Second Amendment'' while indicating he favors the right of states to pass their own restrictions.

    Other candidates in both parties have stayed largely silent on the issue in the immediate aftermath of the killings, except to express their sorrow.

    McCain has opposed many gun controls in the Senate over the years but broke from most of his party - and his past - in supporting legislation to require background checks for buyers at gun shows. In one such vote, he relished taking a position at odds with the National Rifle Association.

    In a speech Wednesday to a crowd of 400, McCain was unequivocal in support of the right to bear arms.

    ``I do not believe we should tamper with the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States,'' he said. A woman shouted that George Washington's troops used muskets, not automatic weapons.

    ``I hope that we can find better ways of identifying people such as this sick young man so that we can prevent them from not only taking action with guns but with knives or with anything else that will harm their fellow citizens,'' McCain said.

    McCain reiterated that later with reporters.

    ``I strongly support the Second Amendment and I believe the Second Amendment ought to be preserved - which means no gun control,'' McCain said.
     
  2. 50 Shooter

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    We'll see if he caves, personally I don't trust him.
     
  3. LawBot5000

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    Pretty sad when a republican candidate is described as "not supporting the 2nd amendment on the same absolute terms as McCain." How much more tepid can you get? I'm really dreading a hillary/giuliani contest.
     
  4. MrTuffPaws

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    McCain is a worm.
     
  5. velojym

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    Looking at the likely front runners.... I see nothing. Every one of them scares me.
    Ron Paul may try to run, and I really hope he makes it... but I fear he isn't mainstream enough.
    I think I'll go get a beer now.
     
  6. 3rdpig

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    McCain is quickly becoming irrelevant. He doesn't have a chance of getting the nomination and he knows it and he's trying to reinvent himself and it's not going to work.

    Fred Thompson in 98! Run Fred, Run!
     
  7. Soybomb

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    McCain's actions speak louder than his words.
     
  8. Anotherguy

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    GOP rival Rudy Giuliani, too, voiced his support for the Second Amendment on Wednesday, but not in such absolute terms. Once an advocate of strong federal gun controls, the former New York mayor said ``this tragedy does not alter the Second Amendment'' while indicating he favors the right of states to pass their own restrictions.

    This is one of many problems, allowing states to usurp the constitution! This drives me nuts, especially as a resident of Illinois with our boneheaded general assembly, allowing states to write their own gun (or any other) laws. Individual states should not be allowed to pass any law that would be in conflict with the Constitution of the United States of America.
     
  9. ConfuseUs

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    The problem with always checking to see which way the wind blows is that nobody believes you when you say you're walking upwind.
     
  10. ATW525

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    Though I think Ron Paul is ideal, I would happily accept McCain over 90% of the mainstream canidates out there. He might not be the perfect choice, but he's lightyears ahead of the prominent Democratic canidates.
     
  11. mike101

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    Gee, is McCain flip-flopping? :D What happened to him all of a sudden?

    I think this is a good indication that the whole country isn't swallowing the antis' rhetoric, this time. A lot of people are waking up to the fact that gun-free zones are an open invitation to every lunatic out there.

    It's about time.
     
  12. JWarren

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    As much as I hate to say what I am about to say:


    If Fred Thompson doesn't run, I may well have to look at McCain as a possibility.


    Facing facts, I dont' think Paul will pull off the nomination. If Thompson isn't in the game, I'll have to take McCain over Guliani.

    I'll vote for your kid's pet goldfish before voting for Guliani-- or standing aside and watching him become our president. Ditto Obama and Hillary.


    John
     
  13. ravnew

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    Scary

    Scary as it sounds I agree with JWarren. If Thompson/Paul does not become reality McCain may be my only choice.
     
  14. xd9fan

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    this from a guy that puts limits on the 1stA.........again talk is cheap.....in Washington its worthless
     
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    McCain is just like Clinton: say whatever sounds good today. Yesterday is gone and tomorrow isn’t here yet.
     
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    this from the guy that said hi cap mags should be banned...

    and an evil republican is not the only choice...the libertarian party is there...

    before you laugh if people keep voting for the lesser of two evils...eventually this country will have a civil war as liberty keeps yielding...

    DB
     
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    problem isn't what they say it is what they do, and once they are in there there isn't a whole lot we can do for the next four years. Learning that the hard way.
     
  18. Slotback

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    McCain tends to look like a "Manchurian Candidate" to me. He comes out and does some pretty weird political flip flops.
     
  19. Waitone

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    Sen. McCain,

    we here in flyover country appreciate your new found enthusiasm for the second amendment. You just said you don't believe in gun control. I draw your attention to legislation you prominently sponsored in years past, Closing the Gunshow Loophole in which you would subject law-abiding citizens to stalinist regulations just because they were in a gunshow.

    Do you consider your legislation to be gun control? Answer carefully Senator, you get one chance to get the answer right. You are not considered to be the most stable of candidates.

    Yours in the Second Amendment,

    Waitone
     
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  20. Monkeyleg

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    I've been a loyal, Republican-voting RNC supporter for years.

    Having said that, if McCain or Guiliani are my choices next year, I'll vote for local candidates, but not for any presidential candidates.

    And I'm going to call my state and national Republican party officials and let them know that NOBODY besides Fred Thompson will get my vote, or what little money I can contribute.

    Beyond that, we have a political action committee here in Wisconsin called the WCCM. Right now we're only chartered to support state-level candidates.

    It would only require filing a few more forms to allow us to contribute to Fred Thompson's campaign. And I sure as hell would do my best to raise as much money as possible.

    Until Thompson started talking about running, I just assumed that a Democrat would win the presidency in 2008. If he declares, which it looks like he will, I think he has a good chance.
     
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    Listen not to what they say but attend that which they do.

    When a DC polly opens his mouth the only thing that comes out is hot air and
    bovine fecal material. Doesn't really matter which side of the aisle he is on.

    McCain is no different from the career pollys like Schumer, Lautenberg etc. etc. ad nauseum. He holds up a finger, checks which way the political air flow is headed and then spits out some trite comment designed to serve his
    personal agenda. His past actions speak volumes more than any words that could ever emanate from his piehole.
     
  22. ProficientRifleman

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    He is an absolute hypocrite! He was all about gun registration and Brady and AWB, back 10 and 12 years ago. Can he change his mind? Sure he can, if he was misinformed before. I don't believe he was misinformed before. Leopards do not change their spots. He is a political opportunist who sees which way the wind is blowing. He is less polished than Bill Clinton, but of the same stuff.
     
  23. Limeyfellow

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    The antigun views worked for numerous presidents like Bush Sr, Reagon, Ford and Nixon so unfortantly they have a habit of saying they support gun rights and then stabbing people in the back.

    The only good thing as others have said their isn't the support even amongst Democrats to get any new restrictions put into place. Gun control stopped being a major issue 12 years ago.
     
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    http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=S0061103

    Just scroll down to "Gun Issues" and see for your self.
     
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    If you just look at his voting record, you will see whose side he is really on.
     
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