McCain - I will back no gun control

[karz10]

Well, I don't know if he'll get very far now, after his 'Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iraaaannnnn' comment in SC after being asked by someone in what I believe was some kind of military post what his thoughts on Iran were, he paused for a moment and started singing that comment to the tune of 'barb barb barb, barb barb barbara annnnnn' and laughed, and then tried to collect his thoughts....

If you haven't seen, a lot of media has been harping on it and getting muslim people on tv saying joke or not, that's irresponsible, etc.

I saw other parts of this stand up routine, and he looked uncomfortable up there, and seemed to have a cold or something that day, he kept fidgiting with his nose and sounded congested, I don't think he was having a good day....

FWIW, it might blow over, then again, it might not

Karz

 

[SoCalShooter]

Its one thing to say it, but flip flop Mccain cannot be trusted.

 

['Card]

This thread has more crap in it than a double-hole outhouse.

Those of you who say McCain has such a heavy duty anti-gun voting record need to do a little research. Fact of the matter is that the gun show background check bill they list in the article is the only time he's ever gotten close to the anti-gun line, and even that one wasn't a simple cut-and-dried matter. He voted for one committee version of the bill that had some harsher criminal penalties in it for certain violations, then he voted against a version that had those penalties removed, and then for a third version with some other changes. The bill never made it anywhere at all in the long run.

The real reason why McCain is blasted by so many pro-gun organizations doesn't have anything to do with guns at all - it's because of the McCain-Feingold bill. Now you can say that money equals free speech or money doesn't equal free speech or whatever you like about it, but saying he's anti-gun because of a bill that doesn't have anything to do with guns (but might possibly have hurt pro-gun groups more than anti-gun groups) is just flat-out wrong.

Think what you like about McCain (I'm undecided on him myself) but if you're going to form an opinion about him based solely on his position on the RKBA, then at least make sure you know the facts about it.

 

[Rachen]

Give him a chance,

but nevertheless, we must be prudent.

McCain could have woken up from the false promises of gun control, seen the effects of gun control on crime ridden cities, and seen that gun control does nothing to reduce crime.

However, voters should always be careful that this recent support for the 2nd ammendment is just a political stunt, all for self interest and getting back into power. Look at what Britney Spears did in the past 3 months to renew her celebrity status.

 

[trondossa17]

trust, but verify . . .

I don't trust 99% of politicians on this issue (including most all of the presidential candidates, excepting Ron Paul).

It's a citizen's duty, IMO, to keep track of how their elected officials are doing. If we're not involved in the process, we may well be surprised at what actually gets passed.

 

[ATW525]

I'm with 'Card on this. McCain voted against the Brady Bill and the AWB. He also voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms and the prohibition on gun consification after Katrina. His actual voting record is very Pro-2nd Amendment and always has been. All these accusations of him flip flopping on the issue are rubbish when you stop and look at his actual voting record.

As 'Card also mentioned, the beef the NRA has had with McCain isn't about his stance on 2nd Amendment issues at all, but rather his support of campaign finance reform. I don't personally agree with his position in that regard, but if that's the worst of his evils, I can live with it.

Also, the idea of not voting if your preferred canidate doesn't get the nomination makes no sense at all. By not voting for the Republican canidate, you're making it easier for Clinton or Obama to win in '08. Almost every Republican hopeful right now is better than either of them, even if they're not perfect.

 

[hksw]

Republican presidential candidate John McCain declared Wednesday he believes in ``no gun control,''... until I get into office

There, fixed it.

 

[Surefire]

Giuliani is practically 100 percent liberal on social issues. We might as well have Clinton or Abama win so that when they (foul) the country over the Democrats can take the blame. I don't want Giuliani to win no matter what. His liberal agenda IMO will cost us our rights, and everyone will remember that it was a Republican that did it!

I'm hoping a libertarian or more conservative candidate has a chance. I don't think this is likely though. If McCain were to make a comeback, I'll probably go for him since IMO he's a little more conservative than the top candidates (Giuliani, Clinton, Obama).

Fred Thompson may be a good choice, but if he doesn't have a reasonable shot then its like throwing a vote away and giving the Socialist Giuliani the nod.

Its a sad state of affairs. All the choices are not trustworthy IMO, and as voters I feel that the best we can do is vote for the least worst.