Media continues to frame the narrative

[Old Dog]

We all know that the mainstream media drives narrative as far as the terminology it uses ("arsenal," "deadly assault rifle," "high-powered rifle," "high-capacity magazines," etc., ad nauseum) but also with the gravitas displayed when reporting trivial things and things that seem normal to those of us within the gun culture.

Comes now the story about how CBP and DHS are keeping Mexico safe from Americans who would bring "massive amounts" of ammunition into that country.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...pc=U531&cvid=398d8221aec84b6b8277402f648ee49d

Over 2000 rounds! Good heavensf This made national news on all the wire services and networks.

That might seem to the uninitiated and uniformed enough ammo to equip an entire company for battle, but we know this would simply be a good Saturday at the range out in the desert with our buddies and our dreaded "deadly assault rifles."

Is there a way to put this all into perspective and counter the over-the-top reporting of all things firearms-related by the media these days? I don't know, but it sure seems like our side is losing the publicity battle.

 

[CDW4ME]

When I have it it's a AR15 "assault rifle" whereas if DHS has it then it's a PWD "personal defense weapon"

 

[Meeks36]

The media is all about sensationalism. To a non gun person 2000 rounds sounds like alot. To us it’s a day or two of fun. Maybe a start to have enough ammo on hand to ride out the next panic buy. Depending on how much one shoots. I wouldn’t even read that article. Gives them more views and more reasons to post carp like that. If it was a online article. If not change the channel. I personally haven’t watched the news in years.

 

[Rule3]

How much drugs come the other way from Mexico into the US?

The make a bust of a 10 kilos (of anything)like it makes a dent. But it is big news

 

[Armybrat]

When I have it it's a AR15 "assault rifle" whereas if DHS has it then it's a PWD "personal defense weapon"

I have pointed that out many times in recent years to antigunners.
Now I cannot find that Obama era DHS procurement document online. Guess the feds deleted it with cooperation from the Googles?

 

[12Bravo20]

2000 rounds would just be enough for a single combat load for 9 soldiers. So yes that is not a lot. Standard combat load when I was in was 210 rounds per soldier in 7 magazines. Or as stated, a good day at the range for a few people.

 

[Seedy Character]

4 of us made a summer trip to hunting camp, just to get away.

We had 21 guns and 12k rounds. We took no ammo home, other than EDC stuff.


Got to love, laugh, cry, when media dramatically reports the "suspect had an arsenal consisting of a hi-cap, full, semi-auto handgun with 3 clips and a assault rifle."

Drama and sensationalism replace journalism and integrity, years ago.

Started to work and hear a news report, female is over-dramatic and literally shaking, as she reported, "a 50 thousand gallon tank of isoproponal is burning. It is less than 1/4 mile from a school. Stay inside, protect your children, beware of wind direction."

Please, moron, it is rubbing alcohol. I show you a million gallon tank of hydrogen cyanide.

 

[12Bravo20]

4 of us made a summer trip to hunting camp, just to get away.

We had 21 guns and 12k rounds. We took no ammo home, other than EDC stuff.


Got to love, laugh, cry, when media dramatically reports the "suspect had an arsenal consisting of a hi-cap, full, semi-auto handgun with 3 clips and a assault rifle."

Drama and sensationalism replace journalism and integrity, years ago.

Started to work and hear a news report, female is over-dramatic and literally shaking, as she reported, "a 50 thousand gallon tank of isoproponal is burning. It is less than 1/4 mile from a school. Stay inside, protect your children, beware of wind direction."

Please, moron, it is rubbing alcohol. I show you a million gallon tank of hydrogen cyanide.

Reporters would really freak out if they went to the school here in my small town of 1200. Not 200 yards away is an Anhydrous Ammonia distributor that always has tanks full of that stuff.

 

[jak67429]

Good thing they didn't show up at scholastic nationals last year. sasp had 3000 entries, each fired a minimum or 500 rounds. SCTP had 3500 entries min of 300 rds. and every one of them was school age. most were 5 grade to 12 grade.

 

[earlthegoat2]

Given enough time, some selectively edited interviews and footage, the media could turn people against cute puppies.

 

[Old Dog]

Given enough time, some selectively edited interviews and footage, the media could turn people against cute puppies.

 

[GBExpat]

... Is there a way to put this all into perspective and counter the over-the-top reporting of all things firearms-related by the media these days? ...

I think that we would have to get some firearms education back into the schools ... along with some of those .22rf rifle teams (remember those?). And ROTC? I guess our national Vietnam experience killed ROTC. <sigh>

Seems to me that a key part of the "anti" strategy involved getting such education out the schools.

Next start ramping up a quiet program to demonize the subject. Within a few generations you own the minds of a great many of both the parents and their kids.

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Brings to mind ...

1999 in the office. One of the young guys overheard me telling someone on the phone(?) that I had found a great price on 556 M193 ammunition and had bought (at least) a case. He ... looked ... stunned! He asked how many rounds (he probably said "bullets") are in a case? I told him these are 1000-round cases. GASP. Now he was scandalized ... and breathlessly asked me what I was planning do with all of those "bullets". "Um, shoot them? "

Yeah, grew up in a liberal household ...

 

[Old Dog]

Seems to me that a key part of the "anti" strategy involved getting such education out the schools.

Yep, and the concurrent demonization of firearms as not a "normal" hobby or form of recreation. Now we have the FBI, DHS and the Southern Poverty Law Center saying that us older white folk that identify as Christian, own firearms, admit to voting a certain way, might have a Gadsden flag flying on the patio or decal of same (even a "Thin Blue Line" flag) stuck in a truck window, or wear a certain red ballcap or even a tee-shirt with a Spartan helmet design and "Molon Labe" are likely MVEs -- "militant violent extremists" who probably espouse racist views as well.

1999 in the office. One of the young guys overheard me telling someone on the phone(?) that I had found a great price on 556 M193 ammunition and had bought (at least) a case. He ... looked ... stunned! He asked how many rounds (he probably said "bullets") are in a case? I told him these are 1000-round cases. GASP. Now he was scandalized ... and breathlessly asked me what I was planning do with all of those "bullets". "Um, shoot them?

Had that happen to me as well, same type of circumstances. It's almost too fun to mess with these people.

Then I knew a guy that lived in an upscale Seattle suburb (hint Costco) who ordered about a pallet load of ammo and the wife of a neighbor (who saw him loading into his garage) said she couldn't live next to a house full of illegal amounts of ammo and was gonna call the cops. She was furious when she found out that it was legal.

 

[dogtown tom]

We all know that the mainstream media drives narrative as far as the terminology it uses ("arsenal," "deadly assault rifle," "high-powered rifle," "high-capacity magazines," etc., ad nauseum) but also with the gravitas displayed when reporting trivial things and things that seem normal to those of us within the gun culture.

Comes now the story about how CBP and DHS are keeping Mexico safe from Americans who would bring "massive amounts" of ammunition into that country.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...pc=U531&cvid=398d8221aec84b6b8277402f648ee49d

Where in that article did anyone claim "massive amounts"?

Did you just do what you accuse Fox and the media of doing?

Trivial? 2,000 rounds may very well be a large bust for CBP. Understand this isn't some guy making a trip to the range, the 2,000 rounds were concealed inside his vehicle.
The driver is lucky he was busted on the US side of the border, he'll pay a fine and be given a stern look by the judge. Mexico would toss him prison or demand $$$ to let him leave. (ask Kyle Bush)

 

[Old Dog]

Where in that article did anyone claim "massive amounts"?

Did you just do what you accuse Fox and the media of doing?

Trivial? 2,000 rounds may very well be a large bust for CBP. Understand this isn't some guy making a trip to the range, the 2,000 rounds were concealed inside his vehicle.
The driver is lucky he was busted on the US side of the border, he'll pay a fine and be given a stern look by the judge. Mexico would toss him prison or demand $$$ to let him leave. (ask Kyle Bush)

The "massive amounts" was on one of our local news outlets this morning; I just linked the first story I found on the internet. If you read the comments in all the reportage, it's surely implied that all those concerned consider the amount of ammo seized to be massive. Not sure what your question means; my point was that the media spotlights a bust concerning a relatively trivial amount of rifle ammunition as though it's a huge deal and the world was saved by the discovery of this evil product..

And no, that's not a big bust for CBP. 17,584 pounds of methamphetamine and 388.93 pounds of fentanyl that was seized at Otay Mesa last fall was a big bust. Doesn't matter the amount anyway, or which direction across the border it was headed, the issue is how the media blows up any story concerning firearms while a massive drug seizure is news for a day and then fades into obscurity. When Congress (and the president, witness the recent SOTU address) talk far more about the gun problem in this country than the drug problem, it's an issue to me. Maybe not to everyone else.

 

[Bill Raby]

Makes it easy to spot the people that nothing about guns except what they saw on TV and the movies.

 

[Robert]

Oh no, the media lies about guns to further their agenda, oh no. It's nothing new and has been going on for a decade at least. Probably longer. Do what you can to educate yourselves and those around you. Get them to do the same and maybe we can combat the issue.