Michael Moore and the Illusion of Civilization

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Bowling for Safety
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Michael Moore and the Illusion of Civilization

When one watches "Bowling for Columbine", it's easy to get bogged down in the author's factual errors (which exist in almost any modern issue-based documentary), or in one's ideological differences with Moore and to ignore The Main Problem – or, in other words, the big error – the underlying problem. What is really so wrong with Mike? What made him "do it" – that is, produce a semi-demented propagandist piece, describing the USA as a nation of paranoiacs sitting in gated neighborhoods grasping Kalashnikovs with fingers damp with the sweat of fear, while The Gun Lobby™ and the Evil Corporate Pigs™ exploit their irrational fears to pump out security systems, guns, and alarms by the million? I had to watch "Bowling" four times to find out.
One of the biggest clues in the film as to that question is provided when Moore demonstrates to us a "safe home" – with bars on the entrance to prevent somebody from stabbing the owner, an armored "safe room" in the basement and a hi-tech alarm system. When Moore's guide starts introducing him to the house, he says "the robber and rapist is out there". Moore, of course, gives him the perfect Moore Answer: "Where's the robber and rapist now? I can't see him, can you?" Moore in all honesty believes that putting these safety measures in your home is a sign of excessive fear.
The same is demonstrated in Moore's discussion of TV programs – he truly believe that US television is unique in 'peddling' us fear mongering about Africanized Bees, the Y2K bug, criminals, and terrorists. Newsflash: As a viewer of Israeli, British, Russian, and US television, I can tell you that they're all alike in that aspect. Israelis where as big on purchasing emergency equipment during the various Gulf crises as the Americans after 9/11 – and I better not talk about the price tags on the field generators some dudes here bought in expectation of Y2K.
Obviously, the same pattern continues in Moore's discussion of guns, gated neighborhoods, and other such things. Moore sincerely believes these as a sign of excessive fear – which, he believes, is the cause of US violence (minor point: to demonstrate US' violent nature, he uses absolute numbers (NOT rates) of gun murders only. Sweden's total murder rate is higher than that of the US.).
To a degree, Bowling for Columbine is the sign of one of great illusions of the 20th century West: that we live in a safe world. That civilization will protect us ("civilization" is usually employed to denote government infrastructure we have learned to take for granted). There's no need, says Moore (and The Great Mistake he represents) to build a gated community, buy an alarm system, or carry a gun. The world is safe, we have civilization now, and you can trust civilization (to Moore, civilization = government) to protect you from the rare excesses – such as the "gun-toting psycho" that believes the world is unsafe.
For obvious reasons, Moore is wrong. The world is a dangerous place, and has always been. Terrorism is real (and if a 747 impacting the WTC didn't convince him, nothing probably will), and so are robbers, rapists, and looters – in an event such as Hurricane Hugo, these might actually come down and "ravage" suburban areas. And this has happened before.
There's nothing particularly strange about walling in your neighborhood, either – humans were putting walls around their communities since 10,000 BC, why the hell should they stop doing that? Just because it's the 21st century now? Mind you, the 20th century has seen bloodier wars than any other, so what's that about civilization again? People were also carrying weapons for protection ever since humanity exists, and they should stop now because? Oh, I remember, we have civilization. Note: More people were victims of violence in the 20th century than ever before, and of these, over 160,000,000 were murdered by their own governments – the same ones we are supposed to trust to protect us. So what was that about a safe world? Our world will only be safe if we make a continuous effort to keep it safe.
For untold centuries, civilization was a fragile treasure under a constant threat from those who ignored its rules and morals – barbarians, terrorists, highwaymen, the Nazis, and so on, and so forth. This is why we have armies. This is why we have guns. And this is why we have gated neighborhoods, alarm systems, and "safe-rooms"
Obviously, Mike Moore doesn't care about reality. All he cares about is his weird world-view and the view of the Hollywood mainstream – a view, like his film, based on clichés rather than fact, which can only be supported by carefully doctored facts – and not by reality. However, the average viewer, spoon-fed from birth by the same clichés, will probably not notice the difference either.

By Boris Karpa
 
If Moore thinks the US media is bad he should see some of the literally Nazi-like Jew-hating drivel and conspiracy laced paranoia that is parroted by educated, middle class members in much of the Arab world.

I can't wait to see his latest project: Farenheit 9/11.
 
Hmmmm

How about "Mikey Moore & the Illusion that I am actually not sub-human"
 
MicroBalrog wrote:
minor point: to demonstrate US' violent nature, he uses absolute numbers (NOT rates) of gun murders only. Sweden's total murder rate is higher than that of the US.

Are you sure of that?

I thought that Sweden's total violent death rate was higher than the US's because suicides are included and Sweden's suicide rate is much higher than America's, but their homicide rate was lower than the US's.
 
very nice writing -- good points well made.

The main reason this will not be published is that it has no "hook."

The movie has been out for a long time now; it's not at all in the public consciousness any more.

Too bad you didn't have this a year ago -- it might have been printed!
 
It is well known that these Hollyweird "people", condemning guns in the hands of law abiding citizens, are the same crowd, living in heavily secured areas, having armed bodyguards and are armed themselves to protect their precious own bacon. A lot of them wouldn't even get a CCW because of heavy abuse of drugs, but they are "celebrities" and thus way higher level than we plebs.

If this Mooron would live in a neighbourhood with people looking like him, he'd have a totally different sight of life.

The Führer is in the bunker, the people may bite the dust!
 
*shrugs*


I despise Moore, almost as much as Al Sharpton. I don't try and analyze him, as it is a big waste of my time IMHO.


He can keep his "civilization", and I'll rely on my trusty SIG.
 
Any thoughtful person knows the the veneer of civilization is quite thin on every front.

Moore is a dope. And, anybody who pays attention to him is a bigger dope. Moore gets paid to be a dope.
 
This will prove just how intelligent (or not) Moore is.

He actually has a lifetime membership to the NRA.

Why, because he thought that as a member, he (of all people) could be elected NRA president and dismantle the association from the inside.

He said this on a talk show,Politically Incorrect W/ Bill Mahre, I think

And he actually believed that would happen. I think he is the type, that if he were simply ignored long enough he would go away.
 
Anyone know where Moore lives? I'd be willing to bet its a gated community. I'd also like to put some money down on his having a pretty decent security system since he, of course, doesn't have any firearms in the house. Cheers,
Shawn
 
My hat is off to any person that could sit through that drivel and actually critique it. I think I would have an aneurism if I was forced to watch it (which would be the only way I would: forced).
 
my fiance was tempted to see it by all her college friends who dutifully ate up Moore's lies and proclaimed the film as the greatest socio/political commentary since Machiavelli's The Prince
actually I dont think her friends thought it was that good but you get the idea
anyways, i told her we could watch it together if afterwords we watch Innocents Betrayed from the rockin' guys at the JPFO......
I dont have IB yet though........birthday coming up soon however :rolleyes:




but i still dont want to watch BFC
BSR
 
i read the hardylaw thing a while ago when BowlingForCrud came out and thats what originally pissed me off about the movie
i told her about all the fictions in the film and he brother did as well........her brother is a huge film buff/ametour filmmaker and he refuses to watch it.......so that helps solidify my stance on it with her........
she still wants to see if it has a valid "point"
and it (BFC) indeed may have one point.........we are a violent society (mind you this is blamed on regular gunowners and the NRA).......but the reasons why we are violent and the ways to fix it are totally opposite of what mr moore would have us believe
BSR
 
Borrow BFC from the library (so Mikey Moore doesn't get any revenue) and see what kind of lies we're up against.

It's insane. All that documentary, all that footage, and interviews, etc., and he never gets to the real cause of Columbine: the psychotic idiot murderers. Sometimes people are...well...evil. Gunning down kids is evil. Putting people in gas chambers is evil. I mean, if you want to committ suicide, do everyone a favor and do it in the privacy of your own home.:barf:

A quote from Jeff Cooper's excellent "The Art of the Rifle":

"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
 
I just got this on usenet.


In article <[email protected]>, "Boris Karpa"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Bowling for Safety

>> (minor point: to demonstrate US' violent nature, he uses absolute
> numbers (NOT rates) of gun murders only. Sweden's total murder rate
> is higher than that of the US.).

That's a very interesting and provocative statement: do you mean that
the Swedes beat eachother's heads in with rocks because they have a
harder time getting guns, and that they do this more frequently than
Americans commit murder with guns? Source, please? I am curious,
baffled.

> For untold centuries, civilization was a fragile treasure under a
> constant
> threat from those who ignored its rules and morals - barbarians,
> terrorists,
> highwaymen, the Nazis, and so on, and so forth. This is why we have
> armies.
> This is why we have guns. And this is why we have gated neighborhoods,
> alarm systems, and "safe-rooms".

But "we" don't; not all of us, and in many parts of the world, hardly
anyone does except the paranoid and delusional. Yes, a civilization
is vulnerable, and can be smashed up by any number of events, and very
likely ours is just as limited in its extended future as any before us.
But the fact that Rome eventually fell doesn't mean that Roman
civilization never existed, or that it wasn't worth a huge effort to
become Romanized and a citizen on the part of hundreds of thousands of
"barbarians" who couldn't wait to get "in".

Of course there's no safety. This is the physical world: It Is Not Safe.
Something terrible can always happen, even without guns -- a really
swiftly transmissable and severe bird flu could wipe the floor with us
the way the Black Plague wiped the floor with Europe (and this, an
epidemiologist of my acquaintance tells me, keeps "trying" to happen and
very likely will).

And you are going to die, one way or another, at one time or another;
and so am I, and so is everybody else, regardless of various
life-extending tecnologies that might become available to the very rich
in the next decade.

So, do you choose to live in terror, like a hairy savage dragging his
club everywhere with him and so hoping to fight off destruction until
the very last minute? It's a choice, and and in some parts of the world
it's a pretty sensible one, right now. But it's not the only choice, or
even the only sensible choice.

Or, you can join with other like minded people in an effort to make our
little life worth living, until it is necessarily rounded by a sleep.
We don't *have* to live our lives cowering behind walls and guns and
electric fences, not always and everywhere; and the kicker is, whether
we do or we don't, we still get to die.

Moore is arguing on the side of striving for the humane ideal rather
than surrendering, and indeed wallowing, in fear and aggressive
self-defense. I happen to live in a relatively quiet, comfortable, and
safe environment right now, and I'm making the most of it -- even though
it might be demolished tomorrow by a Terrorist attack, just like any
other pleasant place. So I choose to try to live up to the best of
what's possible rather than to lug a gun everywhere with me, since
lugging that gun in this place will contribute primarily to dragging the
environment down to a lower level of civility and pleasingness, while
being entirely ineffective in actually stopping me from being killed
(since something is going to kill me, one way or another).

You pays your money and you takes your choice. I'm in Moore's camp on
this one. Maybe, if things do suddenly deteriorate at a rapid rate in
my surroundings, I'll change my mind. Maybe I won't live long enough to
change my mind. And this matters, how?

Fear cripples. Hope frees. I'll go for hope, and try to shove fear
back where I can, which is what Moore is trying to do. You do your
thing, I'll do mine; but I think I'll be a good deal happier than you
while we're at it, even though to you I look delusional and to me you
look (well, sound, actually) pathetic. Just my humble opinion, to which
I am just as entitled as you are to yours -- or M. Moore to his.

C.
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That's a good piece, Boris....

Don't give up!

We need more folks writing articles such as yours, and less folks writing this sort of absolute drivel:

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"Moore is arguing on the side of striving for the humane ideal rather
than surrendering, and indeed wallowing, in fear and aggressive
self-defense. I happen to live in a relatively quiet, comfortable, and
safe environment right now, and I'm making the most of it -- even though
it might be demolished tomorrow by a Terrorist attack, just like any
other pleasant place. So I choose to try to live up to the best of
what's possible rather than to lug a gun everywhere with me, since
lugging that gun in this place will contribute primarily to dragging the
environment down to a lower level of civility and pleasingness, while
being entirely ineffective in actually stopping me from being killed
(since something is going to kill me, one way or another)."
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It seems difficult to believe that any rational person would write that first line, given Mikey's reputation for lying and distortion, not to mention playing on racial unrest and fear himself. but there are certainly some delusional folks out there.
:what:
 
I wonder why so many people seem to equate "taking measures to protect yourself" with "living in fear" (and specifically, fear you have created for yourself)?



As for BFC:

The funny thing is, when I and my parents watched it, the conclusion didn't seem that anti-gun. After all, it did say "Canada - almost no gun crime, almost as many guns as the US)", and conclude it was attitues - and poverty - that caused crime, not guns.

And as such, I was surprised by how anti-gun he then seemed when confronting Charlton Heston, and on his website in general.
 
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