Michigan sees fewer gun deaths — with more permits

[Gunnerpalace]

JonM left after Tao pwned him away,

Whatever anti's were left took off after their weak arguments got taken out with the truth.

 

[bsf]

From the article:


Quote:
In September, a 36-year-old Troy man killed an armed 18-year-old assailant who, with three other suspects, attempted to steal his car outside Detroit Police headquarters.

The victim in that Sept 2007 incident was (remains) one of my dearest and most respected friends. He very nearly died. The fool perps were so brazen that they did this in front of the PD.

For what it is worth, the perp who died, had a pistol held to my friend's head. Had my friend not fired, I have zero doubts he would have died that evening.

PTL for MCPL.

Doc2005

Is your friend clear of any potential fallout from that incident? I probably did not read all your posts since then about the incident, but I have read some. If it would not be inappropriate, I, and probably others, would be interested in what your friend had to deal with after the shooting. If this is not a topic open for discussion, I understand. I am primarily interested in the legal aspects, in particular interaction with police and prosecuters.

 

[10 Ring Tao]

I got thru about page 5 before it and that JonM guy just got to be too much. Some people truly are too stupid to live.

After JonM ran away, some guy named beancounter came in, with pretty much the same results.

JonM left after Tao pwned him away,

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Anti-gun is a left wing religion and a supremacist stance.

Texas instituted an elaborate tracking program in response
to widespread claims that TCHL (Texas Concealed Handgun
License) would increase gun crime. They found that non-licensees
were six times more likely to commit crimes than licensees.
Gun permit holders are among the most law-abiding subsets of
the population.

The antis will not acknowledge this.
True believers in a supremacist religion don't need no stinkin' facts.

Shikha Hamilton of Grosse Pointe, president of the Michigan chapter of the anti-gun group Million Moms March, said she believes overall gun violence (including suicide and accidental shootings) is up in Michigan since 2001. Many incidents involving CCW permit holders have not been widely reported, she said.

The most publicized recent case came early in 2007, when a 40-year-old Macomb County woman fired from her vehicle toward the driver of a truck she claimed had cut her off on I-94. Bernadette Headd was convicted of assault and sentenced to two years in prison.

Hamilton said that even if gun violence has ebbed, it remains pervasive, tragic and unnecessary. At the least, a more liberal concealed weapons law means there are more guns in homes and cars and on the street, she said, and more potential for disaster.

The story does not even say that a carry permit was involved.
Did road rager Bernadette Head have a concealed carry permit? Any bets?

Also, I thought one of arguments against Lott MoGuLeCr was that there
was no increase in public carry of guns after passage of R-T-C just the
legalization of what people had been doing all along, and that more
carry permits did not mean more guns in homes, cars or workplaces,
just a little tiny statistically insignificant increase in legal carry by
people who already own and carry guns.

This does prove antis are a disorganized bunch of sects and cults,
with no organized dogma and catechism. But they loath and fear us,
and that makes them better than us, and the rightful target of their
righteous rage.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

a critic of R-T-C law
But the manner in which the law was enacted was nevertheless "sneaky" and "undemocratic,"

My feeling about the freeze on the NFA MG registry also. I guess it all
depends on whose sacred ox is getting gored, hunh? The Constitution
is a great model for a democratic republic; too bad it is a "living" document
(d)evolving to adapt to the whims and winds of change. The "people"
mean citizens in the 1st and 4th Amendment, but the "people" in the
2nd Amendment, well even if "people" does mean the citizens and not
the state, the times they are a'changing, right?