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ROGER4314
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I think what theses educated people are getting at is that he is either not telling you what really happened, or he wasn't even using a Bersa and someone was mistaken. People here are well educated enthusiasts and if you say something that is not even possible you will get called out, don't get mad your info was just off!
You weren't there and I was. I saw what I saw, it was a Bersa Thunder .380 and I even followed up with a call to the owner of the pistol to verify the facts. You counter with a blanket dismissal saying that the event could not have happened and now begin to malign me and my credibility as a member. That's pretty low and you just aren't worth my time.
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You weren't there and I was. I saw what I saw, it was a Bersa Thunder .380 and I even followed up with a call to the owner of the pistol to verify the facts. You counter with a blanket dismissal saying that the event could not have happened and now begin to malign me and my credibility as a member. That's pretty low and you just aren't worth my time.
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chicharrones
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I'm with you Roger, I think it is possible from just looking at my own Bersa. Because of that, I'll take your word for what you witnessed.
Here's the quote where you said he had something done or something was wrong with the takedown mechanism.
"Edit....Heck, I just called James and got it from the horse's......errr.... mouth. The gun was a Bersa Thunder .380. He said the take down lever had been worn/modified which allowed the lever to shift, releasing the slide. I asked him how that could have happened. His reply was that the rest of the gun did not have much wear so he felt that a previous owner had attempted to modify the sear and also hit the take down lever. He said there is a notch/detent/lump? on the take down lever that was modified. That is NOT Bersa's fault if someone modified it improperly. It does point out that modifying a firearm if you don't know what you're doing is foolish and hazardous. It also points out that even a small mod on that take down lever can be disastrous! How's that for getting to the bottom of things? "
Here's the quote where you said he had something done or something was wrong with the takedown mechanism.
"Edit....Heck, I just called James and got it from the horse's......errr.... mouth. The gun was a Bersa Thunder .380. He said the take down lever had been worn/modified which allowed the lever to shift, releasing the slide. I asked him how that could have happened. His reply was that the rest of the gun did not have much wear so he felt that a previous owner had attempted to modify the sear and also hit the take down lever. He said there is a notch/detent/lump? on the take down lever that was modified. That is NOT Bersa's fault if someone modified it improperly. It does point out that modifying a firearm if you don't know what you're doing is foolish and hazardous. It also points out that even a small mod on that take down lever can be disastrous! How's that for getting to the bottom of things? "
ROGER4314
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I'm with you Roger.
Thanks! I guess Texans will stick together against all opponents, huh? Sorry, I just can't get all wound up over a particular brand of gun. If you like Bersas, then buy them and enjoy them. I choose to do otherwise and that's my right. That's why we call our nation "Free." I don't smoke but I'll fight to the death for your right to smoke if you want to.
That being said, after shooting for over 50 years, I've seen a lot and if folks don't choose to benefit from that experience.......that's just dandy with me.
You're around Galveston? I'm North of the island. I'll ride the Harley down there and we'll go shoot. Send me a PM!
Flash
Thanks! I guess Texans will stick together against all opponents, huh? Sorry, I just can't get all wound up over a particular brand of gun. If you like Bersas, then buy them and enjoy them. I choose to do otherwise and that's my right. That's why we call our nation "Free." I don't smoke but I'll fight to the death for your right to smoke if you want to.
That being said, after shooting for over 50 years, I've seen a lot and if folks don't choose to benefit from that experience.......that's just dandy with me.
You're around Galveston? I'm North of the island. I'll ride the Harley down there and we'll go shoot. Send me a PM!
Flash
Trad Archer
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I own 2 Bersa's. A380 Thunder and a 40 UC.
It took a couple hundred rounds for the 40 to break in. Now it seems to be 100% reliable. As for the 380 Thunder......I've put at least 2000 if not closer to 3000 rounds through it ranging from my own reloads to a wide variety of factory ammo. That gun has never failed.
My father-in-law has a 380 Thunder also and claims to have never had a single problem with his either.
I am seriously thinking of getting either the 380 plus which holds 15+1 or the 9mm UC.
It took a couple hundred rounds for the 40 to break in. Now it seems to be 100% reliable. As for the 380 Thunder......I've put at least 2000 if not closer to 3000 rounds through it ranging from my own reloads to a wide variety of factory ammo. That gun has never failed.
My father-in-law has a 380 Thunder also and claims to have never had a single problem with his either.
I am seriously thinking of getting either the 380 plus which holds 15+1 or the 9mm UC.
Fishslayer
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That's a cool story, bro, but you'd have a pretty lonely safe if you disqualified every make of gun that had ever had a scary malfunction. How do you know it was assembled correctly by the owner, whatever?
Uh uh! A S&W threw it's barrel downrange! No S&W for you!
This is NOT what a half cock notch is for. They can not be trusted to withstand the abuse of being dropped on the hammer. And when it does break, the hammer can hit the firing pin hard enough to fire a primer. They're good only for preventing the gun from firing if your thumb were to slip off the hammer while cocking it. Do NOT carry a Bersa on the half cock notch.
What makes a Bersa more dropsafe is for the hammer to be ALL the way down. What prevents it from firing when dropped on the hammer is the inertial firing pin. It's not long enough to reach the primer unless it's impacted with sufficient velocity. If the hammer's all the way down, it can't transfer this energy when impacted. Placing the gun on half cock actually defeats this safety feature. Not surprisingly, this (all the way down) is the position that the gun will be in when you use the decocking lever (when it's working, correctly, at least!). I can't say for certain, but I think the Bersas also have a firing pin safety. Either way, carrying on the half cock notch does not make the gun safer!!! Relying on a metal notch to prevent an AD is a lot iffier than relying on physical near impossibility.
You cannot (safely) manually decock a Bersa into this position. You must use the decocker.
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