Military Approves FN SCAR System for Full-Rate Production

[JR47]

also, your scenario of routing exhaust back to the intake is a reality. the auto makers have been doing this for decades and use it to burn off excess unspent fuel and to warm up the motor in cold environments.

Sorry, but I just couldn't let this lunacy pass. The air used to warm the engine rapidly, while insuring better atomization of the cool fuel, has nothing to do with the exhaust gases.

In fact, the introduction of minute amounts of exhaust gases via the EGR valve is absent in a cold engine.

The use of exhaust gas is to reduce efficiency in the combustion chamber via reducing peak operating temperatures. This, in exchange, reduces the amount of nitrous oxides produced by the engine.

It has nothing to do with achieving operating temperatures. In fact, if the Congress were to remove nitrous emissions from the EPA list, as it's well proven that combustion is less than 3% of the total, rotting vegetation making up the rest, gas mileage would increase markedly.

The analogy was bad enough when comparing the DGI of the M16 with improved systems, without the fact that it was 100% wrong technically.

 

[crossrhodes]

No comment ???

No comment on the two articles in the Army or Marine Times ???? Bart? Owen?

 

[Owen]

I haven't read the articles. Both pubs are little better than gossip when they've reported on things in my lane, so I quit reading them.

 

[HorseSoldier]

I'm not sure on the time lag between news happening and making it to the pages of Army Times, so I can't say for certain that their SCAR story is shoddy journalism or just superseded by later events (though with the source, shoddy journalism is always a safe bet).

 

[crossrhodes]

Any good scoop

I'd like to find a good information source but I understand that dealing with Gov/Mil contracts info....I'd have better luck trying to buy the Brooklyn bridge. LOL
Thanks for your input gents.

 

[Chindo18Z]

Multiple Choice Quiz:

Q: When it comes to front-page military small arms articles, the Army Times has a track record of being:

1) Factually Innacurate
2) Wildly and Speculatively Wrong
3) HK's Advertising Mouthpiece
4) A Mouthpiece for Wishful Congressional Constituent Job/Contract Agendas
5) All of the Above

I choose #5.

 

[Tirod]

The entire premise of the OP is in the title: Just because the miltary says, FN is going into full rate production.

Name the contract, by number, and exactly who's buying them.

If there has been anything at all consistent with FN's press releases, it's a complete detachment from reality on the existence of an actual contract stating the number of weapons to be built, and who's getting them.

In the meantime, they are hitting all the military arms shows and doing the sell, sell, sell.

The first to post a contract number and details on the quantity and recipient will be the first to have actual facts there is one. Otherwise, "Full Rate Production" is just another media blitz to spin the simple statement by SOCOM they are not buying any more MK16's, because the M4 does it already. There is no improvement in effectiveness or hit ratio.

 

[Owen]

They already have a contract. Full Rate Production is a milestone of the contract process. With the contract in place, no new contract is required, units simply send money to the contract manager to put the guns on order.

 

[HorseSoldier]

Except that SOCOM hasn't allocated any money to procure the Mk 16. The end result is currently looking kind of like the SAW version of the M14 -- type standardized and all but never fielded.

 

[rtz]

Why is the AR-10(.308) not an option as an upgrade/replacement to the 5.56? Just convert the existing arsenal.