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Military crimp cleaning options?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by DonP, Jul 18, 2011.

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  1. DonP

    DonP Member

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    I picked up a full 5 gallon bucket full of Lake City 30.06 brass at an estate sale last weekend at an obscenely low price.

    From the looks of it, it's "once fired" and the ones I've checked so far still have their crimp in the primer pocket.

    Other than my little Lee primer pocket cleaner, any thoughts on the best way to clear out the military crimp for a lot of cases without getting "crimp elbow" and doing it by hand?
     
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    Countersink bit and a cordless drill. (or spend $100 on a dillon super swage)
     
  4. Miata Mike

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    Your little Lee primer pocket cleaner will do nothing to the crimps.

    A light touch with a countersink bit, or borrow a Dillon super swage. I do most all of my .223 cases with one just because it is so simple.
     
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    +1 on the Dillon Super Swage 600.

    Look at it this way: Buy the Dillon, process all the brass painlessly and very quickly. When you're done, sell the Dillon tool. In the end you will have spent less money than if you'd bought a cheaper tool.
     
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    Lyman has a primer pocket tool kit with a small and large crimp remover.

    I have used my case mouth deburr-chamfer tool to remove crimps.

    I would imagine the 45 degree counter sink as Miata Mike state might work a little better than the chamfer tool due to the more shallow angle.

    Just checked the Lyman site and the primer pocket uniformer-crimp removal tool is available for $20.50
     
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    I have one but don't expect the use of your hand for a week or so. Dillion is the best way to go. You can sell it on EBay for almost what you paid.
     
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    You can chuck it in a drill press or battery power drill.
     
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    Get the Dillon and you can swage them in front of the TV.
     
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    Dillon super swage. If you got that good of a deal on the brass, another $100 would be worth it and it will also be good for any other crimped primer cases.
     
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    Another option is the RCBS Primer Pocket Swager. It costs about $35 for both small/large primer pockets.

    Here is a Youtube video of its operation. It is really quite simple to use.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdkA7vDeaes
     
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    If you have a buddy or two that also reload mmilsurp ammo, then I suggest you buy the Dillon Super Swage as the others have suggested, but split the cost evenly. I have used other tools for the military crimp primers, but the Dillon tool beats the others hands down. As the old adage says "ask the man who owns one." :)
     
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    I have the RCBS primer pocket swager and the Dillon Super Swage. The Dillon costs a lot more but for speed and ease of use it's worth every penny.
     
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    Buy the Dillon, used it, and sell it on eBay for what you paid for it. A friend did that and it worked.

    You can't beat the Dillon for ease and speed. Never removes too much brass like a countersink (actually it doesn't remove ANY brass).
     
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    I agree the Dillon tool is a great one but the cost is high. Granted it's quick and easy but so is the RCBS tool. Did you look at the youtube video listed in Post #11?

    Remember, once you fix the primer pocket it doesn't need to be done again.
     
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    BeltFedEd,

    Thanks for the link!
     
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    The forces involved in swagging are tremendous. Look at the YouTube video and watch the bench bending if you don't believe. The only issue with the RCBS pocket swagger is that you must have a very strong O-frame press, such as a Rock Chucker or Jr. If you've got a discount whimpy open-frame aluminum press, then you'll need a new press or the Dillon stand-alone unit.

    That's why most people turn to a countersink bit placed in a hand-held drill motor or drill press.
     
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    I use the hornady reamer chucked in my drill and did not purchase the handle. It works and it is cheap.
     
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    60 degree single flute Countersink, 45 degree removes to much material from the base face.
    Chuck it in a hand drill clamped to the work bench, holding the brass give it a quick push on the countersink. Probably do a 1000 or more an hour.
     
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    I bought the swage & ram prime from CH4D & love it. I can't say mine is easier or harder then the RCBS or Dillon because I have never used ether but the CH4D is as fast as I or my 8 year old son can go(he is actually faster then me). It takes no effort or time so I see no point in getting the Dillon.
     
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    I don't care for methods that remove brass from the case. The RCBS and Dillon swagers push the brass back where it started from.
     
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