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Military personnel can import"assault" rifles into Cali

Discussion in 'Legal' started by striker3, Oct 2, 2004.

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  1. striker3

    striker3 Member

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    Early last week I emailed the CA DOJ on a whim, asking if, since I was in the military, I could in anyway bring an "assault rifle" into the state. The next day I got a call from one of their representatives. He stated that there is actually a form that I can fill out, allowing me to import into the state, for as long as I am on active duty. I was so astounded, because this was contrary to what I had always been told by others since the day that I got my orders.

    From what he stated, the requirements are that the weapon cannot be in the state before you have official approval. Also I forgot to ask about the time frame for approval once I submitted the paperwork. He also said that you could bring in "hi-cap" mags that were for that particular weapon.

    When asked if I could bring "hi-cap" mags for handguns his response was an unequivical no.

    I should be getting the form in the mail shortly, I will post a copy of it, in case anyone is interested. As for myself, I just sold my AR last weekend, so I will not be doing this. Maybe when I come back from my next Iraq tour, I will build up a decent NM AR so I can compete.

    Just so you know, I do not think that I should get special priveleges from the PRK because I serve in the military. But I do think that any means by which we can get more firearms into Cali is a good thing.
     
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    I heard this rumor also... if this IS the case, i'll be having something made.


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  3. Langenator

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    Now, I'm not all that familiar with the PRK AWB, but here's the next question:

    If I, as a member of the military, import an "assault weapon" into the state (say an M-4gery with as many naughty bits as possible), can I transfer that weapon to a PRK resident while I'm there?

    I was a PRK resident (legally) until a couple of years ago. Now I live in WA (legally).

    My PRK-disapproved stash:

    M1A with flash suppressor, bayonet lug, and 3x20 rnd magazines
    HK USP Tactical .45 with 2x12 rnd magazines
    3x Yugo M59/66 SKS rifles
     
  4. esheato

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    I've heard of this also. Although I don't have an AR, I asked for a friend, and the policy related to me was that you could bring it in, but it couldn't leave the base/installation.

    I never followed up on the paperwork or the rest of the requirements because I don't have one.

    CA DOJ would be where I start, then the base SP/MPs.

    Ed
     
  5. Telperion

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    Langenator- no they can't be transferred. The law is so tight that California-defined "assault weapons" are not even transferrable by bequest.
     
  6. striker3

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    Here are the docs that I finally recieved from the DOJ. Also included with the package was 2 10 print fingerprint cards with all of the appropiate blocks filled in. I think that they put an individual case number on mine, but am not sure. I would contact them to find out.

    The last page is in the post below.
     

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    Here its the last page.
     

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    So what happens after you're off active duty?
     
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    If you stay in CA after you leave Active Duty, the weapon must be transferred out of state.
     
  10. Langenator

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    Here's a really silly thought: Why isn't the PRK ban on private citizens bringing their lawfully possessed personal property into the state considered an unconstitutional intrustion by the state into interstate commerce?
     
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    Lang - you can't transfer the weapon, hence no "commerce" will happen. That's how they'll say it anyway.

    Every day I'm thankful for not living in Kali.
     
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    LEOs may import personal AWs still. Here is the PC:

    I have not found any more verbage specifically relating to military personel, a strict interpretation may limit this to MPs. A more loose interpretation may conclude that all Active military personel are 'peace officers'...

    Interesting
     
  13. R.H. Lee

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    Oh, yeah, that'll be happenin'.............. :p
     
  14. Langenator

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    LT-

    I was thinking of an ordinary citizen who wanted to move to the PRK (God knows why, maybe they're an actor or something) who wouldn't be allowed to bring his/her EBR if they moved.

    Barring the importation of legally owned items could be looked at as interfering with interstate commerce, when looked at from certain points of view.
     
  15. ObeOne

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    striker3,
    Did you get in writing that you can have the rifle mags with the guns? From what little research I have been able to do recently, it was unclear. Of course, the other part I have found out is to get anything they say you can do in writing, just in case.
    I am interested in this If (probably when, go to girlfriend) I come back. Would do it now, but with me leaving in about 5 months, it doesn't really seem worth it. I would probably just get permission right before I leave. :fire:
    Otherwise, great news ;)

    Obe One
     
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