Military Poll?

Survey Of Military Service!

  • Yes, I Served Honorably- Active Duty

    Votes: 65 60.2%
  • Yes, I Served Honorably- Reserves

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • No, I Did Not Serve - (Reason Confidential)

    Votes: 32 29.6%
  • No, I Was A Draft Dodger

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
    108
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Someone care to explain the high regard that a lot of Americans seem to have for the armed forces?
That's an easy one. The liberty owned by the most free nation on Earth was bought again and again by the citizen soldier at arms.

One would have had to both experience real freedom, and appreciated it, to truly understand. As Ala Dan said, "DUTY, HONOR, & COUNTRY!", says it all for those that "get it".

I can understand subjects* and other non-citizens that don't "get it" (they have never known freedom), but what really pisses me off are the Hollyweird types (and other assorted :cuss:s) that have built their fame and fortune upon freedom, yet choose only to vilify and defame those that bought it FOR THEM!!!!

Sit down and ask yourself why it is that in the past 30+ years, only about 5 movies about the military haven't featured a main character that was:

A) Mentally deficient e.g. Private Pyle "Full Metal Jacket", Forrest Gump "Forrest Gump" etc...

B) Psychotic e.g. Private Pyle "Full Metal Jacket", any of the characters in any Oliver Stone movie, Or in "The Deer Hunter", "Apocalypse Now", etc. ad nauseam, ad infinitum...

C) Chemically dependent See Above


In any case, those who know the worth of a thing best, are those who PAID for it. And those who would seek to take it from them - whether through force, or through propagandist bull???? - would do best to think again. :fire: :fire: :fire:

Hence, all that seek to do so shall always fail.


* There was a time before socialism when even subjects did get it:


This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

partial excerpt, Shakespeare's "Henry V" Act 4, Scene 3
 
St. Johns-the British military veterans also honor their sacrifices and their lost friends. Maybe we see them more on American TV than you might there, and if that is true, shame on those who do not honor their sacrifice.

Many of us here were brought up to believe the highest honor is not to make money off your neighbors, but to serve in the defense of their freedoms while suspending many of your own due to the nature of the job.

US Army. in with Nixon first term, out with Carter (and I thought it couldn't get any worse than having Peanut head for a C in C:uhoh: )
 
Didn't serve and I'm happy to share the reasons why.

FYI, military service runs in my family. My father was a career Army officer and his father was badly wounded in WWI. My godfather was a fighter pilot.

I was too young to go to Vietnam. When I graduated from high school, the Army was in its post -Vietnam reduction phase. Both my father and my godfather told me that it wasn't a good time to start a military career and I listened to them. As much as I appreciate those who do serve, I have never regretted that decision.
 
UPDATE-

I put the stipulation of "confidential resons" in the poll
for any person that feels like they have something to
hide. Some examples would be:

a) NO, I didn't serve because I'm a CONVICTED FELON

or

b) NO, I didn't serve due to a medical disability

or

c) YES, I served for awhile but I got kicked out of
the service with a 1) General Discharge, or 2) Undesirable
Discharge, or 3) Dishonorable Discharge.

or

NO, I didn't serve cuz during the Viet-Nam war I
ran across the border into Canada; or England, like
former President Billary Klinton!

or

NO, I didn't serve because I was too old (or young).

or

NO
, I didn't serve cuz I was just SORRY as Hell
and NEVER even registered for the draft.


There you have it my friends, that is why I put in the
CONFIDENTIALLY clause in the poll.


And to those persons who did honorably serve, or are
currently serving around the world; MY heartfelt thanks
and sincere appreciation for YOUR contribution. To those
brother's and sister's that made the ultimate sacrifice;
hallowed be thy name in the "Land Of The Free, And
The Home Of The Brave", and in the kingdom of Heaven.

*FootNote- If any of you want to visit a few of America's
hero's; I suggest you visit Arlington National Cemetery's
website sometime. Of course, not all of her hero's are
entombed there; but its a good starting ground!


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
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Air Force 1985-Present

Still going strong. 2 more till I can retire but 4 more before I will.

Last child will be 18 when I hit 22 years. Might as well retire when she graduates.

Just think, I'll be 41, retired from the service and all my kiddies will be grown up.

Just gonna be me, momma and the guns.

Woo Hoo!!!
 
I voted "Draft Dodger", but I can't really claim that honor. Nixon stopped the draft after I took my physical. I'm sure he would have liked me to join up to kill peasants on the other side of the world for wanting to choose their own government, but I and millions of others weren't in an obliging mood.
 
Yep, hated every minute of it. Then I joined a paramilitary org. With age comes wisdom.:banghead: Much better pension though.:D
 
Joined Army Reserves at 18 while in high school (went to training at 19 but since I joined the Reserves and I was in high school at the time I was able to go to about 7 or 8 months of drills before training). After BCT I was discharged due to a bad ankle.:fire: Still burns me up.

I am now 33 and about 50 lbs overweight, but if I can lose the weight, if I'm under current age standards at the time (last I heard it was 36 max and it will probably take about a year to lose enough weight and build my strength and endurance enough for me to be willing to try basic training again, which is designed for 18 year olds after all and when I was 19 my ankle was to bad to make it through), and if I can convince myself that my ankle can take it I may either enlist in the Reserves as a mental health specialist (I believe the MOS is 91X, Mental Health Specialist) since that is what my degree is in or I might wait until I get my doctorate and go in as a psychologist (only problem with that is I think the age limit for that is 36 and it will take at least 5 years, and more typically takes 6, to get my Ph.D. in Clinical or Counseling Psychology).

USN Ret, Mustang
Sam, do you mean that you flew Mustangs (I didn't think you were that old) or that you were a Mustang?
 
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