miltary arms for hunting??

[EricTheBarbarian]

yea pretty close, and you won't find a warmer pair of boots than the mickey mouse boots

 

[metalrat4225]

military ammo usage?

It has been my understanding that military ammo is intended to injure and wound, but not kill. That way the wounded need medical treatment, hospitals, food, it creates more of a drain on the enemy!. Sends them bankrupt quicker. Sporting ammo is made to expand to do more damage to the vitals of your game animal [ and not the two or three standing behind it] and if exiting, to leave a bigger hole and blood trail.
As the Indians have said," Any gun shoot good, Good Gun!"
Happy hunting.

 

[Art Eatman]

metalrat4225, that myth about "wounding" has been around forever--and it's as much BS now as it was when it started. Military ball ammo bullets are cheaper to produce than hunting bullets, for one thing. Expanding bullets were seen as being inhumane by western nations and world policy obviated their use. Still, it's more a $$$ issue in production than humane-ness in war.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Military ammunition, like everything else in the military, is based on a Required Operational Capability (ROC) document.

Find me a ROC for ammo that says, "This ammo must wound, but not kill."

 

[jaholder1971]

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My current primary deer rifle is my VZ24 scout rifle re chambered into 7X57.
How do you rechamber an 8X57 to 7X57?

The guy I bought it from took the old barrel off and put one of those 21" FN 7X57 barrels on that Sarco was selling new in the white a few years back.

He also restocked and bedded it. He ended up selling it to pay some bills.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The guy I bought it from took the old barrel off and put one of those 21" FN 7X57 barrels on that Sarco was selling new in the white a few years back.

My comment was a joke -- you can't rechamber an 8X57 to a 7X57, you can only rebarrel it, as your friend did.

You could rechamber an 8X57 into an 8mm-'06 by using a .30-06 chamber reamer. You would then expand the necks of .30-06 cases to 8mm and load 8mm bullets. That, by the way, is a great wildcat, just about equal to the .338-'06.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

All of my deer hunting these days is done with ex-military Mauser 98s. They no longer resemble there former selves. Except for a few special use rifles,I have retired my "commercially" produced rifles.

 

[jaholder1971]

Quote:
The guy I bought it from took the old barrel off and put one of those 21" FN 7X57 barrels on that Sarco was selling new in the white a few years back.
My comment was a joke -- you can't rechamber an 8X57 to a 7X57, you can only rebarrel it, as your friend did.

You could rechamber an 8X57 into an 8mm-'06 by using a .30-06 chamber reamer. You would then expand the necks of .30-06 cases to 8mm and load 8mm bullets. That, by the way, is a great wildcat, just about equal to the .338-'06.

I'm actually considering building a rifle in .338/06. I've got a M70 with a rusted out .30/06 barrel that I'm debating what to do with. It's down to either 8mm-06, .338-06 or .35 Whelen.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

You can have the barrel reamed out and re-rifled. I have a custom Springfield that was built in the late '60s in .35 Brown-Whelen, the most radical form of the Whelen. This thing drives a 225 grain Nosler Partition Jacket to 2800 fps.

 

[MD_Willington]

one of the guys at the AK forum uses a Krinkov, yep a Krink.
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The 5.45x39 round makes a terrible mess of a deers lungs and heart, but it works.