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  1. TexasPatriot.308

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    My better half is a helluva shot with a .17hmr, she has taken a few hogs with it. I have a series 581 Mini 14 I plan on putting a scope on for her to hunt deer and hogs this fall. I know there are snobs out there that insist on larger calibers, but at 65 I have killed large hogs with .223s and I know if you are a good shot and make good shot placement you are a good hunter. Just in case lots of yall aren't combat veterans you know the .223 (5.6) has taken out many a human in combat. I'm gonna limit her shots to 100 yards or so. What are the best factory loads for hogs and deer at this range. Just FYI, she has no problem putting a .17hmr through a hogs ear at 100 yards. I always remind people poachers favorite rounds for deer is probably the .22 long rifle. I'm leaning towards the 55 grain ballistic silvertip or even the Remington Core Lokt. Any other ideas?
     
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    I’ve had good luck with accuracy and terminal performance using 64 grain Winchester PowerPoint in my son’s AR and 65 grain Sierra GameKings in mine. Both rifles have 1:9 twists and are AR-15’s.

    On another note I ask about terminal performance but not accuracy in other people’s rifles because a super accurate bullet in a particular rifle can be just the opposite in another rifle, even if it’s the same make and model.
     
  3. troy fairweather

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    any sp 50 grains and up will work fine if put in the right place, for deer i like high shoulder or neck for the 222/223.
     
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    They are a little spendy - but the Barnes TSX bullet, be it the 55 gr. Vor-Tx or 62 gr. Remington HTP loadings, punch well above their weight.




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  5. T.R.

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    My oldest daughter downed her first two mule deer with my heavy barreled .223 shooting 64 grain ammo by Winchester. Two deer with two shots. The bullets passed completely through the chest organs leaving much destruction in their wake. My hunting buddy's wife hunts mule deer with a 220 Swift loaded with 60 grain Nosler bullets. Same results: a very dead animal with one shot through the chest.

    .223 is a good deer killer within reasonable shooting distances.

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  6. FL-NC

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    I kill deer and hogs cleanly with Hornady 75 grain BTHPM, but I think they will be too heavy and unable to stabilize in that older mini. I would try a soft point in 55 grain. Shot placement is king. These 2 were from last year- both DRT.
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    I've killed deer with everything down to 40gr balistic tips, just don't shoot em in the butt...or anywhere else that needs more that 4" of penetration.......

    my like list

    factory 64gr power point
    55gr everything else

    handloads, listed by most used.

    65gr Sierra gk
    68gr Hornady bthp
    70gr speer semi spitzer
    69gr smk
    60gr partition
     
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    doesn't your one friend have a high bullet to butt ratio lol.
     
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    People are figuring out that 223 will kill deer sized animals just fine within certain limitations. Ammo selection is more important, and max range isn't going to be as far as with bigger bullets. I feel better with the 70-77 gr bullet weights, but those probably won't work in the Mini. But a pretty tough 60+ gr bullet will probably work just fine too. As would any of the copper bullets. You can go down to the 50-55 gr copper bullets and still get good penetration.

    The main thing is to avoid FMJ and lightweight bullets designed for varmints. Of course those bullets don't work in 30-06 either.
     
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    that's why he shot my 06, now that that's gone I'm moving him to my .375
     
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    I've shot a bunch of hogs and culled a number of WT does at landowner's request with 55 gr. NBT handloads while targeting coyotes over the years. Proper bullet placement is key. Nosler does not load for 223 but any well built hunting bullet is up to the task. One word of caution w/the little 55's; don't shoot hogs facing between the eyes, bullet will splash and not penetrate skull. My favorite placement:

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    What's the twist rate of the OP's rifle? If it's a 1:9, my experience is 68grs will stabilize. I've read it'll stabilize up to 75gr well. Try it and see before you hunt with it.
     
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    FL NC - A 58x series Mini is not an older Mini. All the 58x series guns have the heavier barrel.

    OP - You specified factory ammo so I can't help with that. I only use my handloads and a Speer 70 grain round nose bullet is a wonderful bullet for the 223.
     
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    Winchester 64 grain power points are generally available in most areas and made for deer. Probably your best factory choice. Lots of good reviews from guys around here that shoot hogs with them.

    If you can find some locally, the hog hammers from Remington have a good reputation as well.

    Whatever you pick, stay with 60+ grain that are marketed for deer or hogs on the box. Lighter bullets are usually varmint rounds with soft construction.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2...ammunition-223-remington-64-grain-power-point

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...sx-hollow-point-boat-tail-lead-free-box-of-20
     
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    That'll learn 'im.
     
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    or knock him sillier.
    Speaking of silly, the best supercheap factory ammo I found for deer were 50gr American Eagle hollow points (those goofy round nose looking ones).
    At 4 bucks a box, as compared to the 12 bucks for WinPPs, they were surprisingly good, and I killed a ton of axis with those in highschool.
     
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    ya it's nice when cheap ammo works good. i was using the cheap 55gr r-p hollow points in my 22-250, dropped the deer in there tracks.
     
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    in Oklahoma here 55gr is the minimum bullet weight for deer, so I used them with neck shots and up no issues as they will drop out of the scope and will be layin there where you shoot them!
     
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    Yup, that's what that little white patch under their chin is for.;)

    When in doubt, shoot the top one. :D
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  21. troy fairweather

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    only thing bad about a neck shot is the neck roast is ruined. but when ever we have cold winters there's so much fat mixed in. i took of the head of a young doe with a 50gr vmax once,
     
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    That's because you were shooting that hot-rod 22-250; wouldn't have done that with the (wimpy) .223. ;):rofl:

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    that always smells funky......
    I stopped shooting deer in the head with anything besides a .22lr just because it always made a mess.
     
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    yup a very hot load, but find a 222rem with a 50gr sp perfect for high shoulder shots.
     
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    they last head shot on a deer was with my 308 at about 15 yard with a hornady interlock 150. the skull was cracked but the head as still intact, could not believe it.
     
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