Mini-14 or AR-15

[dickydalton]

I was really surprised at how many Mini 14's the CA cops are using in those pics. Is it because they don't have the budget to replace them with AR's, don't want to portray a "militarized" image to the public, or some sort of politician publicity like "If our cops don't need AR's then Joe Public doesn't either!"?

Owning both, I'll take the AR hand down.

It's because the "peaceful" government agencies have first dib's on the weapons and ammo now. You know, the BLM, EPA, etc.

 

[Kame B.]

Kame, I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Can the way a mini shoots be improved with an aftermarket barrel like you did? Sure. Does that in any way counter criticism of the accuracy of the gun as shipped by Ruger? Of course not.

Frankly I think the accuracy criticism of the mini, while true, isn't THAT big of a deal in the field. The issues surrounding the parts and accessories ecosystem, as well as the cost, is a much bigger deal for the typical not very picky shooter and/or one not using a precision aiming system.

As far as accuracy "contests" or whatever, clearly nothing is an apples to apples comparison. The LMT shoots better than what you were getting by a good margin, but it's also more expensive and eats expensive ammo. As with many things in life, you get more or less what you pay for.

You right man, the mini doesnt have an ecosystem.

 

[hq]

You right man, the mini doesnt have an ecosystem.

Nor do most firearms. The value of modifying and accessorizing lies solely in the willingness to do it in the first place. Frankly, whenever I've bought an AR I couldn't have cared less whether it has milspec mounts for a satellite dish or aftermarket of readily available wrist-thick conversion barrels in obscure calibers. Some do. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[mavracer]

Hmm, I have to say I don't believe you. I've yet to see a single sub-MOA mini 14. Sub-MOA ARs are everywhere.

these folks have a sub MOA guarantee.

 

[jmorris]

Hmm, I have to say I don't believe you. I've yet to see a single sub-MOA mini 14. Sub-MOA ARs are everywhere.
these folks have a sub MOA guarantee.

I wonder why they only guarantee that accuracy with a 24" barrel. That's a long rod on a mini. Not to mention the mods cost $800, if you supply a rifle, more than doubling it's price.

 

[mavracer]

Not to mention the mods cost $800, if you supply a rifle, more than doubling it's price.

God forbid we have an apples to apples comparison, I love AR's but the rabid fanboi's inability to accept reality is really tiresome.
Fine the AR's ecosystem is superior because "A $2000 AR shooting match ammo will shoot better than a stock mini shooting Wolf steel case crap"

I'm outta this one besides OP's already made his decision and Koolaid drinkers just know they won't like anything else cause another Koolaid drinker told them "water sucks"

 

[The Big D]

I wonder why they only guarantee that accuracy with a 24" barrel. That's a long rod on a mini. Not to mention the mods cost $800, if you supply a rifle, more than doubling it's price.

Also interesting that the minimum barrel diameter is 0.1 larger than a typical HBAR. No wonder I've never seen one - the market for 24" ultra-HBAR battle rifles might be a little thin

 

[Kame B.]

God forbid we have an apples to apples comparison, I love AR's but the rabid fanboi's inability to accept reality is really tiresome.

Yes, god forbid.

I thought my mini would be a good example for a apple to apple comparison... It has been modded, it has been accessorized, and it is a sub MOA rifle. It doesn't have a trigger job nor has the stock been bedded, total cost of the rifle with the new barrel was 730 bucks. Surely there is an AR out there that can compete with my mini built in that price range. But I guess more people just like to hear themselves talk instead of putting up or shutting up.

 

[dirtengineer]

Get a stainless Mini and you could pretend to be on the A-Team.

 

[stoky]

It's the ARs that have the ecosystem. There's probably two or three recycled Budweiser cans for enough aluminum to be MIMed in and the re-rended dinosaur squeezins are saving precious hardwoods for real rifles.

 

[The Big D]

and it is a sub MOA rifle.

Really? That video you posted seems to suggest otherwise. Which I normally wouldn't say anything about, but you seem really interested in making a point out of it.

 

[agtman]

Well, since the frogs appear to prefer the politically-correct "non-AW" Mini-14, I'll stick with my AR.

Just sayin' ...

 

[Kame B.]

Really? That video you posted seems to suggest otherwise. Which I normally wouldn't say anything about, but you seem really interested in making a point out of it.

Yeah, it is a sub MOA rifle. 0.5 to be exact. That target video of mine shows a 1inch group with steel case ammo 55 grain Tulammo. And I have another video showing a group of 3 at 1/4 inch with American Eagle 55 grain brass. Just because I can't pull off that hat trick every time doesn't mean my rifle is not capable of doing it. And in all truthfulness I am done with you, the only thing you have for a rebuttal is either, "you can say what ever you want" or "I dont believe you". Well suck on this buddy, I can't believe a single word you say cause you have brought nothing to back up your claims but hear say and second hand experience.

 

[ugaarguy]

The personal insults have gone from veiled to open, and after 9 pages I think the merits of both rifles have been thoroughly laid out. This edition of AR vs Mini is done.