Missing my "Hawken" rifle.

[Gordon]

exactly about Gunbroker, the Hawken T/C .50 link I put up was NEW and it went for $325

 

[PapaG]

We used to buy "seconds" TC parts at Friendship way, way back and put these "Hawkens" together. They sold barrels, stocks both of which had obvious defects, and a "package" with the other parts in it. Shot as well as the factory guns. Most of us wound up later building a more authentic plains rifle with either Large or Douglass premium barrels and slower twists. About '70.

 

[bannockburn]

TheOutlawKid

Built this Traditions Hawken style rifle many moons ago from a kit I got for Christmas. Wood inletting was for the most part very good with only minor fitting required around the the lockwork and trigger guard. Doing the brass butt plate took a lot more effort as the butt plate didn't line up properly with the pre-drilled holes. Took a whole lot of filing and sanding to get that part over to where it had to be! Other than that it was a lot of fun and a very rewarding gun to build. I believe my kit was made in Spain.

 

[woodnbow]

Wow! I wish i could do just that...roam in buckskins and horse and just camp for a while. I truly envy you and have a lot of respect for a person whos done just that...to me it shows alot of their character and how much they truly love that long gone era. Tip of the hat to you sir

You’re a young fella, you probably won’t get a better chance than now... it’s not the sort of undertaking you’re going to pursue as a retiree if you’re like most older people. (Too fat and soft ;-)

 

[woodnbow]

Sold my Lyman GPR Hawken style rifle for real cheap. Built it from a kit. Browned it. Turned out excellent. Big regrets on selling it but money was tight due to the virus.

Money is back and I want another Hawken. I'm looking at the T/C Hawken. I've heard good things about these and can buy one locally for $475 in great shape.

Anyone here own an older T/C muzzleloader? Any input on them? What about replacement parts?

Thanks.

They’re as most have said, not really period correct or an accurate copy of anything in particular but I have surely enjoyed those I’ve owned and own.
The parts interchange from model to model in many instances, and you can also use aftermarket barrels too.

I’m currently working on two conical shooters using White Mountain Carbine stocks and furnishings. One is a .40 caliber 1 in 16 twist, (shot it for the first time Friday and the very first five rounds at 50 yards could be covered with a quarter. Paper patched .395 330 grain bullet over 60 grains of 3f.) Bob Hoyt lined the Hawken barrel for this one. I’m also working on a .45 1 in 18” using an old 26” Winchester barrel. I fitted an aftermarket forged breech plug to it and dovetailed in a front sight and am now bedding it into the stock. The T/C guns make up into middle weight bullet shooters, a joy to carry but still comfortable to shoot with stout long range ammunition.
I’m contemplating having Bobby line a 26” High Plains Sporter barrel to .45 for me too. With the right sights they are a heck of a lot of fun shooting long range, and that particular stock design is very well suited for heavier weight bullets and charges.
TC Locks stocks and furniture are good quality stuff and there’s no shortage yet of spares to be had. Should you decide to sell it later, we’ll cared for examples seem to hold value as well as any other make. Better than some.

 

[Mike 56]

I bought a 54 White Mountain Carbine on the cheap had a little rust not too bad lapped it out mine shot patched round ball really well.

 

[Weflyfast]

I have two .50s and a .32 for squirrels and such.... All are fun guns and shoot very well- you won't regret the T/C Hawkin

 

[Catcar67]

I bought a TC Hawken about 10 years ago. It was part of a widow's husband's firearms. I showed her the new price lists and some used listings and offered her $250 since hers needed some TLC (it had been kept in the trunk of her car for about 3 months) and she agreed.

 

[Bfh_auto]

I built my t/c .54 Hawken from a kit in '83. I was 19 years young, lol. View attachment 928713






I will make a few comments...
They are susceptible to crack in the wrist, mine did.
The lockwork is excellent.
I'm not crazy about the 1:48 twist, but mine is accurate.
I'm not crazy about the brass furniture.
I think the Lyman GPR is a more authentic looking rifle

I'm not running the Hawken down, just pointing to its faults and virtues. I love mine, and wont part with it. I took my biggest buck, and dozens more with it.
Best wishes for finding a good Hawken.

Edit to add: my crack is through the lock screw hole, not the wrist...zoom in on my pic and you can see it.

I personally love the brass. If course those were the first muzzle loaders I saw as a child. I was in my teens before I saw an authentic one.
I had good accuracy from a 54 and a 50 TC.

 

[Old Stumpy]

TheOutlawKid

Built this Traditions Hawken style rifle many moons ago from a kit I got for Christmas. Wood inletting was for the most part very good with only minor fitting required around the the lockwork and trigger guard. Doing the brass butt plate took a lot more effort as the butt plate didn't line up properly with the pre-drilled holes. Took a whole lot of filing and sanding to get that part over to where it had to be! Other than that it was a lot of fun and a very rewarding gun to build. I believe my kit was made in Spain.
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I looked at a couple of Traditions Hawkens fully assembled at the LGS about 4 years ago.
Since these rifles use a screwed-in drum instead of a Hawken patent breech plug, the drum would ordinarily have been torqued into alignment to position the nipple so the hammer face would strike the cap properly.
On these rifles the drum or the barrel was installed too far forward and the maker simply rotated the drum to get the nipple face to contact the hammer face in the center.
However this resulted in the nipple being at the wrong angle, and caps would not be struck squarely.
It was quite obvious and would have required major work to rectify.
I would advise anyone considering buying any Traditions rifle with a nipple drum to examine this area carefully. (or any other such rifle)

 

[Armored farmer]

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I personally love the brass. If course those were the first muzzle loaders I saw as a child. I was in my teens before I saw an authentic one.
I had good accuracy from a 54 and a 50 TC.

I suppose I have been brainwashed by the gathering of eccentric characters and codgers at my club that thrive on authenticity.

 

[forward observer]

This probably go for more than you want to spend, but it sure is pretty.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873743145