Mississippi Militia standoff(lasting 1997-1999)

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The root of the conflict involved an eminent domain seizure. In 1987 the Memphis and Shelby County Airport Authority instituted a noise abatement program because of complaints by local residents. A significant portion of the program was a buyout plan designed to purchase certain properties near the airport.

By 1994, the Cockrells were the last family in the neighborhood. Consequently the city of Southaven instituted eminent domain proceedings against his private property. The eminent domain jury set an amount of $66,000 as the value of the Cockrell’s home.Cockrell fought all these proceedings, representing himself. He also took other methods, including deeding the property to his son, in order to keep it out of the hands of the authorities.

By the end of 1996, most legal avenues had been exhausted. The county court issued a removal warrant for the family on January 17, 1997. However, Cockrell had an ace of sorts up his sleeve; he contacted Drew Rayner, who commands the Mississippi Militia.That day he issued an alert.“Billy has requested militia support regarding the illegal and unconstitutional seizure of his house and property,” the alert stated. The Mississippi Militia also mobilized a small observation group to the Cockrell’s residence.

Because of the presence of militia members on the property, the county sheriff decided not to serve the warrant. However, Southaven city attorneys informed the Cockrells that they had posted a notice for the demolition of the Cockrell home on the date of January 30. Once more the word went out over the Internet. “You are cordially invited to a campout…on the grounds of the Cockrell home,” read one alert, issued on January 28. “The purpose of this little get together will be to witness that the Cockrell’s home will not be unlawfully demolished.”

On January 30, militia members from seven different states were camped out at the Cockrell residence.The Mississippi Militia took the opportunity to distribute literature on militias and jury nullification. Reporters witnessed militia members carrying weapons.(ewww! scary!;)) The media had all four television affiliates and several newspapers on the scene.
Conspicuously absent, despite the demolition ultimatum, were local authorities. Southaven and De Soto County officials claimed that there were no immediate plans for the house’s seizure or demolition. In the meantime, militia members continued to guard the Cockrells’ property. Supporters of the Cockrells continued to issue pleas for help over the Internet. In fact, however, Southaven Mayor Joe Cates announced in early February that the city would delay demolition plans until an appeal court had ruled on the removal warrant. The militia attributed the delay to the presence of the militias and the subsequent media attention. This in fact was a factor in the sudden cautiousness adopted by local authorities. Their caution was soon cemented by a stay issued by a county judge.
The Cockrells continued the battle , launching a blizzard of lawsuits against city and county authorities.The Cockrells held off seizure for more than two years as the various suits and appeals made their way through the court system.The community supported the Cockrells, especially after local officials announced plans for a golf course on the buyout program properties.

Eventually, however, the state supreme court denied a petition to rehear the case. Local officials were once more faced:D with seizing a home held by a family who dared to defend their constitutional rights. This time, however, law enforcement took the cowardly route. In early March 1999, when the Cockrells were visiting relatives in Memphis, authorities decided to move. In the early evening, the sheriff sent a SWAT team numbering over a dozen men to the Cockrell residence.

Members of the SWAT team knocked on the front door, then blew it open when there was no response. SWAT officers entered the house and searched the residence.Law enforcement officers found five pistols, two assault rifles, fifteen other rifles, several shotguns, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Cockrell had been out with family, and only came back to his house after it was effectively out of his possession. Authorities removed his possessions, then bulldozed his house down!

The MS Militia spotted government cronies approaching the house and contacted the Cockrells. Billy Cockrell asked the militia to stand aside. In respecting the Cockrells constitutional right to dictate what happens on their property(we told the Cockrells it would not be smart to leave the house)and of respect for the safety of innocent neighbors,we stood aside.

Drew Rayner stated: “May God have mercy on the souls of each and every man and woman who participated in this massacre of liberty"
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That was stupid. :banghead:

There could have been a lot of bloodshed.

So what if the guy lost his house? It happens all the time. All he had to do was buy another house with the money they were giving him.

Sounds like a bunch of clowns running around in the woods to me.
 
2nd Amendment:A well regulated Militia(all able-bodied citizens)being necessary to the SECURITY of a FREE state,the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

This is not about running around in the woods.This is about taking action to preserve a free state.The locals overwelmingly supported what we were doing there.Not to mention many who participated are locals.I dont think you read the last two paragraphs.Sorry bud,but i dont take to kindly to tyrants.

This sends a message to the government that this people will not tolerate abuse of eminent domain.We havn't had problem since... in Mississippi.Can't say the same for Florida

Riviera Beach,Florida(and your town is next)
Nov.29,2005
Eminent Domain proceeding that would strip 6,000 people from thier homes.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...ov29,1,7251814.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
If all peacable means of resistence fails,then i would call for the people of Riviera Beach,Florida to form Militias among themselves and protect thier God-Given right to own thier own private property.This is a critical time in America when our rights are being assaulted left and right.If the courts decide in the favor of the government,then this means that the only way our government will respect our constitutional rights,our God-Given liberties,is when the government sees the people forming militias and arming themselves in preparation to defend thier rights.Such as, the people of Florida actually REFUSING to be moved and standing together in defiance of tyranny.Before you start labeling me an extremist,maybe, you should decide on whether you have the integrity to defend your home, your son's and daughter's homes,your community's home(present),your state's homes, your country's homes FROM THEIVES!!They were more commonly known as bastards to our forfathers.(lol)But really,do you have this integrity?Do you have what it takes?... Patriot?:scrutiny:
 
clowns

First, you do not understand the 5th amendment.

Second, you risked a lot of lives over that stupidity.

To me that equals a bunch of clowns runing around in the woods.

There is a good reason for eminent domain. It prevents malcontents from holding up progress.

It would be very different if the government just started grabbing property say to eliminate the national debt. The fifth amendment does not allow that.

You are talking about taking up arms in response to the outcome of a court case. Only a bunch of loonies would do that.

I don't fear the government. Yes, it does things wrong from time to time and we need to straighten it out. Grabbing guns and running around in the woods is not the way to do that.

Do you want to turn this country into another Iraq? You sound like the nut ball terrorists over there. You're going to do a Jehad against eminent domain? Give me a break.
 
Mr_Moore said:
That was stupid. :banghead:

There could have been a lot of bloodshed.

So what if the guy lost his house? It happens all the time. All he had to do was buy another house with the money they were giving him.

Sounds like a bunch of clowns running around in the woods to me.

Do you own a home?

A house is more than four walls and a roof where you keep your stuff. It is the place where you have raised your children, laughed and cried with your family. In our case it is a place that I have invested lots of sweat equity to make the house the way I want it.....where I've smiled in pride at my accomplishments and issued epithets at my failures.

This is the very reason why the 2nd amendment is part of the Constitution....a check valve on the advances of a totalitarian government.

Based on the information in the original post, I don't see mention of anyone running around in the woods.....just a group of citizens protecting a family's property from a government strong arming them into leaving a home that they didn't want to leave.

This was not about expanding the airport, according to the original post. It was about creating an abatement zone around the airport due to noise. That means that the land wasn't taken for any compelling community interest, but rather to silence complaints about the noise from the airport (would be interesting to see which was their first...houses or airport).

This is six year old news but resonates strongly with current events given what is going on in Connecticut and Florida.
 
Norton said:
This was not about expanding the airport, according to the original post. It was about creating an abatement zone around the airport due to noise. That means that the land wasn't taken for any compelling community interest, but rather to silence complaints about the noise from the airport (would be interesting to see which was their first...houses or airport).

So you advocate the violent overthrow of the government if you don't agree with a court case?

Sounds like more clown behavior.
 
Norton said:
Do you own a home?

A house is more than four walls and a roof where you keep your stuff. It is the place where you have raised your children, laughed and cried with your family. In our case it is a place that I have invested lots of sweat equity to make the house the way I want it.....where I've smiled in pride at my accomplishments and issued epithets at my failures.

So what? Grow up. If the government has a legitimate need for your house - take the money and move. Your sentimental clap trap sounds like the argument of a 3 year old.
 
:cool: You assume too much.or rather you have an agenda to destroy the
2nd amendment from within its supporters.

This was not a reaction to a court decision.It was to ensure that the Cockrells had their day in court.

We don't advocate overthrow of the government at the present time,because peaceful resistance is still possible.

This is America.Where we have Constitutional God-given rights that have been paid in agony,tears,and blood.Don't try to feed these good people liberal bullcrap.

Clearly,Mr.Moore,if you don't advocate overthrow of the government at anytime(even under communism or Saddam),then you are un-American.Our forfathers fought a revolution and won your freedom.You don't respect that.If everyone thought like you then we would be slaves today.


Nice try though.;)

Norton's comment(would be interesting to see which was their first...houses or airport).
Answer:Houses
 
Mr_Moore said:
So you advocate the violent overthrow of the government if you don't agree with a court case?

Sounds like more clown behavior.

Sounds like the clowns are running the court system and not following
the rules established by the Constitution in the first place. But, hey
it's just a "g- d- piece of paper" that gets in the way of progress in
the first place? We certainly wouldn't want to hold up another Big
Mart getting built so more chinese goods could be sold here to put
more Americans out of business, right?

Come on, Mr Moore, open your eyes up to the big picture where
America is NOT the same land that most of us were born in not too
many years ago!

BTW, how is it that this little story did not seem to make the major media
during all that time? I was in the US at the time, not deployed anywhere,
and it seems to have never been on the wider radar screen. It seems
like it was under wraps longer than Bush's no-court order wiretaps.....

Hmmm?:scrutiny:
 
Its lunatic behavior that encourges gun control

No wonder people want to take our guns away.

Who do you want in charge instead of the current government? You GUYS! :rolleyes:
 
Attala_County said:
We don't advocate overthrow of the government at the present time,because peaceful resistance is still possible.

This is America.Where we have Constitutional God-given rights that have been paid in agony,tears,and blood.Don't try to feed these good people liberal bullcrap.

Actually, I made a mistake there. You were not advocating an overthrow of the government by violence. You were advocating an overthrow of governmental authority in this case by violence.

Still stupid.

And let me get this straight. If I do not agree with a bunch of uneducated, morons running around with guns trying to run the country with violence I am a liberal?! Thank god for liberals.
 
Sounds to me

This sounds to me like the family had no problems with the nearness of the airport and were willing to stay despite others leaving. The militia kept the house from being taken before due process was observed and did back down when asked to by the homeowner. The only people who were in a position to "risk a lot of bloodshed" were the authorities who chose not to by also standing down until there was no active resistance. In my opinion, another case of emminent domain being misused to justify the taking of private property for frivolous general use. A golf course? Keep in mind that my family owns what is left of a farm that dates to the late 1700's. The AA Highway lies over part of it in northern Kentucky. While that is a case that can be seen as putting property to use for a good reason, it doesn't lessen the blow to a family that has been born, lived and died on a piece of ground for several generations. My great grandfather took the house down himself. Our family built it, our family would take it down.

So while I may see the law as necessary in some cases, that doesn't make it right in all cases. Chiding someone for not knowing the Fifth Ammendment according to your standards won't make you right and may illustrate that you may or may not have a grasp on what the spirit of The Document means in it's entirety.
 
Mr_Moore said:
First, you do not understand the 5th amendment. ...

There is a good reason for eminent domain. It prevents malcontents from holding up progress. ...

It would be very different if the government just started grabbing property say to eliminate the national debt. The fifth amendment does not allow that. ...

First Michael Moore (You are Michael Moore aren't you?) you need to learn how to read. The "good reason" for taking private property was FOR AN EFFIN GOLF COURSE!!

Attala_County said:
... The Cockrells held off seizure for more than two years as the various suits and appeals made their way through the court system.The community supported the Cockrells, especially after local officials announced plans for a golf course on the buyout program properties. ...


Secondly, (this is directed at the people of this forum and is my primary purpose in responding) why do we even comment on this indvidual's posts? He is quite obviously a troll (making posts DESIGNED to inflame, doing so in an insulting tone and using insulting language). The best thing we can do is to simply ignore him.
 
If violence is used to robb me of my property then yes, i am forced to defend myself. Its called self-defense.To a rational person,government theives are no better than civilian theives.Government theives are actually worse because they potentially have the power to steal from the masses.
Who's uneducated?
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Another liberal exposed.
 
Mr_Moore said:
So what? Grow up. If the government has a legitimate need for your house - take the money and move. Your sentimental clap trap sounds like the argument of a 3 year old.

What gets me is the lowball prices the government always seems to offer. You offer people enough money and you'd hardly ever need to pull out the eminent domain stick.

Wasn't this supposed to be some sort of 'noise abatement' program? People were complaining about the noise so the government(who owns the airport), said 'fine', we'll buy and tear down the houses in the worst noise areas.

Apparently this family wasn't bothered by the noise.

My idea to prevent this stuff would be to pay their way to relocating to a neighborhood with ~50% more square footage, including moving expenses.
 
Mr_Moore said:
So you advocate the violent overthrow of the government if you don't agree with a court case?

Sounds like more clown behavior.

Who said anything about violent overthrow? Wasn't I.....I said that they stood up to the government.

You still didn't answer the question....do you own your home?
 
Firethorn said:
My idea to prevent this stuff would be to pay their way to relocating to a neighborhood with ~50% more square footage, including moving expenses.

Not a bad idea.
 
Thin Black Line said:
Come on, Mr Moore, open your eyes up to the big picture where
America is NOT the same land that most of us were born in not too
many years ago!

You mean back when blackie knew his place and you could beat your wife and kids with no fear of punishment? That America?

I am personally glad to see it gone.
 
Mr. Moore,

Those folks may be morons in your eyes, but to assume they're uneducated is quite a leap. That's the same brush gun owners and "freedom types" get painted with by the anti's and socialist elites.

BTW, educated folks don't put commas where they don't, belong.:)
 
hayseed said:
Mr. Moore,

Those folks may be morons in your eyes, but to assume they're uneducated is quite a leap. That's the same brush gun owners and "freedom types" get painted with by the anti's and socialist elites.

BTW, educated folks don't put commas where they don't, belong.:)

So you think the average militia member, is, educated? Ok... :rolleyes:

I agree though that someone could be educated about our government and law and come to the conclusion that a jehad against eminent domain is appropriate - it just does not seem likely.

It just sounds like another neo-nazi group trying to grab power.

I don't like right wing fascists any more than I like left wing communists.

I would also be against an armed group trying to do away with churches.
 
Section 311 of US Code Title 10, entitled, "Militia: composition and classes" in its entirety:

"(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are —

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."

Still doubtful? Check it out for yourself at Findlaw.com
 
Sorry,Mr.Moore,you are the average militia member.The active militia is above average.

Lies again.We are not racist or "Neo-Nazis.In fact we have members from all walks of life.

The vast majority of the active militia are Christians.Besides, the Constitution allows for freedom of religion.
 
I wonder about the other side of the story...

1) Since it had to do with a militia, why don't I remember seeing/hearing anything in national news about it? That woulda been a story.

2) I wonder if the people in question were some of the folks who bought property at the end of a runway, and then proceeded to develop a sensitivity to noise...
 
What are you talking about?

Attala_County said:
Section 311 of US Code Title 10, entitled, "Militia: composition and classes" in its entirety:

"(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are —

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."

Still doubtful? Check it out for yourself at Findlaw.com

What I said was that a bunch of clowns who declared a jehad against eminent domain was idiotic.

If that is the mentality of your "militia" then they are criminals and should not even be allowed to own guns.

Also, are you advocating that any bunch of idiots should be able to create a militia? How about the Crips and Bloods? Are they militias? They believe in their right to sell drugs. Should we respect that?

I have no problem with people defending themselves against the government. But, who is going to protect us from your militia? Do you have checks and balances? Do you have courts? (I do not mean kangaroo courts) Are we just supposed to trust you and your judgement?

Too many times in the past, people have accepted the overthrow of their government just to find that the replacement was orders of magnitude worse.
 
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