Mississippi Militia standoff(lasting 1997-1999)

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you would quickly understand the difference when (just like Iraq...BOTH times) within the first 24 hours your ability to communicate orders, make plans that are not compromised, feed your soldiers, and logistically stage personell and supplies for a battle are totally disrupted by the strategic planners that know how to use all of their resources to effectively emasculate your army as step ONE of a WAR.
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Ahhhhh.... I see. Like the US has totally disrupted the Iraqi insurgent's ability to communicate orders, make plans that are not compromised, feed their soldiers, and logistically stage personell and supplies for a battle. They're doin' a pretty good job over there - disruptin' the hell out of a whole plethora of stuff. They may not be wining the battles but regardless of what El Presidente' wants us to believe they most definitely are not losing the war.

POINT! Guerillas can take on modern armies and win wars. And that's what is critical. NOT battles but WARS! There is a difference you know.
 
As to the "just compensation" issue:

I'm looking at my winter 2005 property tax bill for my residence (which I "own".) The "equalized valuation" of my house and land is $76,800. My house would easily sell for $125,000-135,000 on the open market. If I listed my house for $76,800, it would be sold in minutes.

If I got eminent-domained, I wonder what "just compensation would be?
 
Werewolf said;
POINT! Guerillas can take on modern armies and win wars. And that's what is critical. NOT battles but WARS! There is a difference you know.
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Guerilla's, insurgents, freedom fighters, terrorists, what ever you care to call them can only as long as they have enough support among the civilian population to provide them with safe houses, food, and other support. The terrorists in Iraq are losing that support and their fortunes are fading.

I can't imagine any militia group in the 22d century USA getting enough support from the civilian poplulation to be able to run any more effective operations then they do now. The armored car and bank robberies these people do to fund themselves depend on a loosely knit network of like minded people to be successful. Yet they are almost always caught. If they ever think they are ready graduate to a full fledged insurgency, they'd be taken down within a couple days of their units taking to the field.

Jeff
 
Another view on noise abatement programs as it relates to airports:

My grandparents live within a stones throw of Baltimore Washington International. At the time that they bought their home in 1965, BWI was then Friendship Airport.....bigger than a little airport but much much smaller than it currently is.

By the early 1990s, the planes were coming over so low and so frequently that residents filed a lawsuit against the airport....and they won.

Did the airport condemn the community in order to enact an abatement program? Nope....they paid retrofitted every house that was currently owned by those who had moved in prior to a certain date (say 1975). My grandparents, in exchange for signing away the airspace above their home received central air, acoustic drywall added to the inside of the house, additional insulation, new windows and new doors. The house seals up like a refrigerator and you can barely hear a 747 coming over at only a couple hundred of feet.

If the state/government/aiport could afford to do this for a community of what I would estimate to be 3000 homes, would it not have just been easier and cheaper in the long run to do this for the party in question here?

I know I'm Monday morning quarterbacking......just seems that there would be an alternative to forcibly removing someone who didn't want to go.

But there was that pesky golf course, wasn't there?
 
POINT! Guerillas can take on modern armies and win wars. And that's what is critical. NOT battles but WARS! There is a difference you know.
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In order to take on a modern army and win, the guerrilla requires two things. He requires the aid of the civilian population, which you may or may not get; and he requires the aid of an outside power.

The American revolutionaries had the backing of France.

The Viet Cong had the Russians and Chinese backing them.

The Afghani mujahadin had us, the Brits, and the Saudis backing them.

The Iraqi insurgents have Syria and Iran.

Who y'all going to have, and considering that such aid is never free, will you be able and willing to pay the piper what he thinks such aid is worth?

LawDog
 
Werewolf said:
POINT! Guerillas can take on modern armies and win wars. And that's what is critical. NOT battles but WARS! There is a difference you know.
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So lets recount all of those guerillas who have taken on modern armies and won the war...given that winning the war is taking over control of the country.

Afghanistan..oops...not that one. Not a Taliban in sight...

Iraq...oops...causing some disruption but certainly are a very LONG way from controlling the country.


Hmmmm...I seem to have run out of possible candidates for guerillas taking on MODERN armies and DEFEATING them.

Clearly you have NO idea about the difference between wars and skirmishes. You cite the disruptions being caused by some terrorists in a country that is by and large getting back to the business of operating as a country and having free elections as "winning the war" for control of Iraq? Exactly how long did all those guerillas/terrorists last in the face of our invasion at Fallujah?

Do you honestly believe for one second that your group could continue to exist in the face of one or two well-placed cruise missiles, or a squadron of helicopters armed with 50 caliber machine guns? If so, I'd recommend you not be making too many more plans about legally buying guns as I don't think you'll be able to answer the "ever found to be mentally deficient" answer truthfully much longer.

If you and your little friends want to continue to go out and play army on the weekends and pretend, that's fine as long as you don't hurt yourselves. But I'd suggest not poking sticks at the 800 lb gorilla.
 
Iraq? well Bush sure told you didn't he?Just because of one election day where the insurgents didn't attack much don't mean jack!Days before the elections we fought against the most violent battle of the war in Ramadi.
Yes,the military even admited that it was worse than Fallujah.So i think you've been drinkin the Bush koolade.;)
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On the other matter...

Take this eminent domain proceeding in Florida.The Florida Militia is likely to respond.And they will build their support in that community because of this usurpation of power.Then the next community that is taken,once again will build support there.

In most every community that has been effected by these political pundents we have already gained substantial support.Its only a matter of time before we have widespread support that will be even greater than after Waco.

Don't be so naive.Our ranks are growing now faster than ever before.This tactic you are useing is one that is being stated out of ignorance.The government has programed you well to try to do there dirty work.Only their
work,their strategy is one of defeat ,because i see it losing everyday.Never gaining hearts and losing the support of the youth.

As for aid, that would only something to be considered when the time comes.
(Again we do not advocate the violent overthrow of the current government
that is something that you cannot misunderstand.)

To answer the question:
Level 1 training:
Run a mile in 7 mins
60 pushups(at once)
60 situps(at once)
10 Pull ups(at once)


20 shots at 100 yds on a man sized target(Accuracy 100%)

Basic squad training
Basic land navigation training
Basic communications training(radio and hand signals)
Basic survival in isolation training
 
Doesn't membership in an organization that advocates violent overthrow of the government disqualify them?
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Don't see how that could be - wasn't George Washington sworn as Prez? Didn't he not only advocate, but LEAD, the violent overthrow of his government?
 
Sheesh....sounds like little boys that never grew out of wanting to play Army.
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Reminds me of the old saying about patriots being called idiots, zealots and the like until they begin to win, then they garner the support of lesser individuals with similar beliefs but less intestinal fortitude.
 
I can't see a golf course as a "public use." Nor will I accept that the government has the right to seize land for PRIVATE use, regardless of compensation given.
 
Don't see how that could be - wasn't George Washington sworn as Prez? Didn't he not only advocate, but LEAD, the violent overthrow of his government?
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So which one of your group has decided that he's this generations George Washington?

LawDog
 
Originally Posted by Attala_County
Actually about half of Mississippi Militia members are either active or former military or police.Commander of my unit is a former Navy Seal.I work hard for Attala Engineering.There are no underacheivers in my unit.If you can't pass level 1 training,then all you can be is supply carrier or messenger in a time of war.
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I call b.s. on this one. Active duty military are not allowed to serve in any "state militia." Commander is a former SEAL? What's his name? This'll be easy to check out. (Unless the real names of your militia are all double-top-secret, right?) Time of war? So y'all are planning on engaging in "war?"

Our ranks are growing now faster than ever before.This tactic you are useing is one that is being stated out of ignorance.The government has programed you well to try to do there dirty work.Only their
work,their strategy is one of defeat ,because i see it losing everyday.Never gaining hearts and losing the support of the youth.
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No matter how worthy your cause, I just don't see any organized militia activity gaining public support. Even the majority of the people who claim to care about the actual root issue will be passive, especially since they wouldn't be affected.
 
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The Minuteman Project is largely comprised of active militia members and thier families.This a massive recruitment field with high publicity.Even though the government will never admit it.It draws vets and police by the hoards.And yes police can be militia members(when off duty)and a good intelligence source.This is obviuosly true of military as well.

Police and active Militiary take an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution.If one takes that seriously then they will be carrying out what the militia believes already.If a police officer/militia ever is given a illegal order,such as seizing private property for private use or disarming a law-abiding citizen,then he is to arrest the officer that gave that order.That is only a continuation of his oath and militia duty.He is bound by that oath to do so."Simply taking orders"is not an excuse to break that oath.A criminal act under color of law is punishable by 10 yrs. in prison

As with the military.To uphold the constitution,by refusing to take illegal orders.He is bound by his oath.Simply taking orders is not an excuse to break his oath.I dont care how much people argue this.They are not a patriot if they don't fulfill their oath.

Sorry Lawpooch,can't have leader's name,as you would have no good use for it.Since Bush and NSA have been spying on folks.I don't think it would be wise to give law puppet a chance to gett intel on us.Nice try though.

Have to admit, this Michigan unit needs to work on the back slackers.They are definitly not fit for anything but radio or a dead body for cover.:D By the way, look at that goober's bottom lip:barf:

Although i cant say that ive not seen national guard or police that looked much better(donuts are good aren't they):D

Ahhhh.....government bias what can you expect;)


'Do not be afraid,remember the Lord who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons and your daughters, your wives and your homes.' (Nehemiah 4:14)

If all the people with a conscience refuse to fight then it will leave the battle fields in the hands of men without a conscience.(1 John 3:18).
 
SEEL! SEEL! SEEL!

Heck, I'm in better shape than at least two of those Michigan boys...

And I'm old, fat and lame.

Just because I may be considered a part of a "militia" doesn't mean that I have to agree with a bunch of racist bleepwads...
 
You know, I remember from ROTC lab that participating in any extremist organizations was cause for removal from the class, and being booted from the service if you had contracted. Somehow, I don't think that changes for actve duty military.

To answer the question:
Level 1 training:
Run a mile in 7 mins
60 pushups(at once)
60 situps(at once)
10 Pull ups(at once)


20 shots at 100 yds on a man sized target(Accuracy 100%)

Basic squad training
Basic land navigation training
Basic communications training(radio and hand signals)
Basic survival in isolation training
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I could find you some college guys in decent shape that would have a hard time with those qualifications, not to mention lots of middle age guys. Much so less the militia guys around here, which wuld have a hard time running across the street for a jelly donut. I am by no means unfit, and wouldn't come close to passing.
 
and to thick dull skulls that can't read......

No violent revolution under present day government and no one but George the II is the frikkin president .What a dumb ass thing to say!:D There is no damn revolution retards!Its all in your head.You and your little racist fantasies about militiamen.

Social revolution is here.

Wow! Im sorry if it isn't the "jihad" you have been salivating over all day:)
Mister detective Lawblog!:D
 
Sorry Lawpooch,can't have leader's name,as you would have no good use for it.
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Not for me, bubba, for you.

Or are you blindly believing everything your 'militia leader' tells you?

I don't think it would be wise to give law puppet a chance to gett intel on us.Nice try though.
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Child, it's the Internet. Between the IP address you register with every post, and the two different homepages you left in your Profile -- one of which is the actual homepage of your militia, complete with 'Members Only' area and sohelpmeMother a photo album and an open phpBB Forum -- any half-way decent script kiddie would have the names and locations of 90% of your militia within 48 hours.

Goddess preserve me from the SooperSecretSquirrels. "Get intel on us". Judas tapdancing Priest.

LawDog
 
Attala Engineering

http://www.switchboard.com/Builders_&_Contractors/Kosciusko/MS/46/Yellowpages_Results.html

At this site Attala Engineering promises "pre-screened contractors". Probably low level laborers.

It will be interesting to see if Attala supports the militia movement.

It would be interesting to see if people continue to do business with them knowing they hire militia members.

I am going to contact Attala and various news agencies near

6593 Highway 35
Kosciusko, MS 39090

And alert them to this thread.

There has to be a channel 2/4/11 action news investigation team. I can see the headline: New at 6: Attalla Engineering hiring militia members to come to your home?

Local papers love looking into things like this. It should be interesting to see what happens when the light of day is shined on this.

It will be interesting to see what an investagative reporter can do with this.

I also wonder if the FBI would be interested in this thread... Violent overthrow of the government by guerilla warfare? I think that is terrorism and is currently a top FBI priority.

Well we shall see.

Warm fuzzies to all you militia guys!

Where did I put that FBI email address.

http://www.fbi.gov/

Ah to submit a crime tip:

https://tips.fbi.gov/

I should mention to the local reporters that I have contacted the FBI about this. The reporters will then contact the FBI to see if there is an investigation into possible terrorist groups in their area.
 
Guess its supply boy for you then,cause this isn't no middle aged unit(oldest member is early 30's.)

That's the physical fitness requirement for this unit.Most militias have lower standards,but the vast majority aren't fat slobs as in the above.I know you looked for the fattest militia pictures you could find.Everyone who don't realize that is a dumbass.Am i insulting your intelligence.Well, i hope not.

The wonder's that soccor practice in school(college)can do for physical fitness is amazing.

SEEL!

what the crap does that mean?

Get a grip on the facts.
 
My tip to the FBI

Here is the body of my tip to the FBI.

At the following internet location, I believe a self proclaimed militia member/terrorist is inciting the violent overthrow of the government.
He may also be trying to recruit members.

He claims to work for Attala Engineering at:

Attala Engineering
6593 Highway 35
Kosciusko, MS 39090


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2109636&posted=1#post2109636

Now to the newspapers and local TV.
 
Are yall going to let a troll do this?It don't really matter if the F.B.I. invesigates me because i have not broken the law.Get a life outside the High Road Mr.Moore
 
Ah, you are north east of Jackson. There should be reporters in Jackson.

Yep here are the TV stations:

Jackson Area

WAPT-TV, Jackson, Ch. 16, ABC
WBXK-TV, Jackson, Ch. 8, Urban TV Network
WDBD-TV, Jackson, Ch. 40, WB
WJTV-TV, Jackson, Ch. 12, CBS
WLBT-TV, Jackson, Ch. 3, NBC
WUFX-TV, Jackson, Ch. 35, FOX
WXMS-TV, Jackson, UPN
W23BC-TV, Jackson, Ch. 23, Jackson State University
Mississippi Public Broadcasting

How about the newspapers...

Jackson Jackson Advocate
Jackson Jackson Free Press RSS
Jackson Mississippi Business Journal
Jackson The Clarion-Ledger
 
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