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Man killed in attempt at robbery
Pizza shop owner fires on assailant

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, April 21, 2007

Catarino Piedra, 41, kept a gun underneath the counter at the Coliseum Pizza and Taqueria that he owned in East Oakland because his drivers had been robbed many times while making deliveries.

Allen Joseph Hicks III, 22, was an accused batterer on probation for a drug conviction and an aspiring rap artist whom everybody in his neighborhood knew as "Boonie."

The lives of the two men intersected tragically at about 9:30 p.m. Thursday when Hicks, armed with a pistol and joined by two other men, tried to rob Piedra inside the popular pizzeria at 89th Avenue and International Boulevard. Fearful that the assailants might hurt him, his wife and three children -- all of whom were inside the restaurant -- Piedra pulled out his 9mm semiautomatic pistol and opened fire, killing Hicks, police said.

In the chaos, Piedra may have accidentally shot and wounded his 17-year-old son, who was not seriously injured, police said.

Piedra acted in self-defense and won't be charged with a crime, Alameda County Assistant District Tom Rogers said Friday.

"I was scared," Piedra told The Chronicle in an interview Friday. "I had to defend my family. I was in fear for me and my kids."

He added that he took no satisfaction in taking Hicks' life.

"I wish this never happened," Piedra said. "I don't want anybody, any business to be in this kind of situation, with anybody putting a gun in your face."

Piedra said he has owned Coliseum Pizza for 18 years. The pizzeria used to be on 98th Avenue until it moved to International Boulevard in 2005.

The drama began at 9:37 p.m. when three men walked into the pizzeria. Hicks was armed with a pistol and walked up to Piedra, pointed the weapon at him and said, "This is a robbery," according to police and Piedra.

Piedra said his 17-year-old son, 19-month-old son and 13-year-old daughter were inside the restaurant at the time. Piedra said he was afraid that the assailants would shoot him or hurt his family, a contention supported by Oakland police who nevertheless cautioned against citizens taking direct action against criminals.

"There is definitely a balance," said Officer Roland Holmgren, department spokesman. "This thing had potential -- who knows where the suspects were going to take the situation? But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did."

Holmgren said, "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."


The shooting has left two families traumatized, Holmgren said. "There are no winners in this whole case," he said.

Mohammed Ali, the manager of a market on the busy thoroughfare that has seen its share of robberies, had mixed feelings about business owners arming themselves. "Of course they have a right to protect themselves, but from what? If we have law enforcement, should (businesses) have guns? I don't think so. They're inviting trouble."

Hicks was remembered at a growing makeshift memorial Friday near the corner of 90th Avenue and Olive Street in East Oakland. Friends left balloons, candles and bottles of Hennessy cognac on the street and wrote messages on white boards tied to a fence.

"Hard-headed ass, Boonie," one message read. "The world's gone miss u boy."

"He always had a smile on his face," said a 22-year-old man who identified himself as a rapper named Little Al. "He was a solid dude, loyal."

He didn't express any anger at the pizzeria owner for shooting his friend. "Life happens," he said. "I'm not upset, you feel me? You wouldn't want it to happen, but it happened. Ain't no telling why that shooting occurred."

Hicks had pleaded no contest to marijuana possession after police reported finding him counting 19 bags of marijuana on 90th Avenue in June 2004, court records show. He spent two months in jail and was placed on three years' probation. Police then arrested him on suspicion of possession of marijuana for sale in April 2005, and prosecutors sought to revoke his probation.

"I don't sell weed, I smoke it," Hicks told officers during the second incident, the police report said.

Last month, Alameda County prosecutors charged Hicks with two counts each of battery and making threats and one count of brandishing a gun in November and December against his girlfriend, with whom he had been engaged to be married.

The woman said she ended their three-month relationship after Hicks became physically abusive, Oakland police Officer John Biletnikoff wrote in court records. On Christmas Day, Hicks let himself into her home with a key, got into an argument with her and punched her in the face six times, police said.

"One of the blows was so hard her head hit the wall and it put a hole in the wall," Biletnikoff wrote. After she fell to the ground, Hicks kicked her in the stomach, she told police.

Hicks once called the woman and showed up with a gun in his hand, the woman told police.

The 28-year-old woman, who didn't want her name used, told The Chronicle on Friday that despite the alleged abuse, Hicks was a "good person." Still, she said she very surprised that he was shot and killed in an apparent robbery attempt. "I wouldn't think that he would have done something like that," she said.

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Oh boy....where to start?

Piedra said he was afraid that the assailants would shoot him or hurt his family, a contention supported by Oakland police who nevertheless cautioned against citizens taking direct action against criminals.

"There is definitely a balance," said Officer Roland Holmgren, department spokesman. "This thing had potential -- who knows where the suspects were going to take the situation? But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did."

Holmgren said, "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

In other words, "Don't defend your life and family! We're the Police Department and WE know whats best for you!"

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS ROOM PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH...
 
We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

only works if your still alive after the incident. Sorry , but my first instinct isn't to grab a pen and start jotting things down , it's defending myself and/or family .


Ain't no telling why that shooting occurred.

Lemme see , armed robbery maybe?
 
Anyone speaking out?

Why are there no front line police officers denouncing what the department has said?

I always hear that your average street-working police officer is a good guy, a stand up guy, supports the 2A, believes in the right to self defense, etc...

Where are they? Why will they not stand up and shout, "The department HQ does NOT speak for me!!!"

The silence is deafening.
 
Sounds about right for the PRK. I had the misfortune of living in the San Francisco area for several years. This incident should well explain why I was SSSOOOO glad to have escaped over twenty years ago.

From the PRK to Texas. Talk about culture shock! Here (back in those days) the cops would help you drag the body into the house just to make sure there wasn’t a problem.
 
But by no stretch of the imagination are we agreeing with or justifying what the owner did."
Once again, lets villainize the good guy :banghead:
We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."
Hang on there Mr. Badguy. Lemme grab my note pad and camera...:scrutiny:

Of course they have a right to protect themselves, but from what?
Ahhh, a punk with gun in your face....:rolleyes:
 
what the h*** kind of community is that where they are giving a makeshift memorial to a drug dealer wife beater.

I wish I lived close to that memorial, I'd go do some non high road stuff to it
 
if anyone is familiar with Oakland that is a very very rough part of town. if you are going to run a walk-in business there im surprised there was only one gun in the restaurant.

+1 for the good guys.
 
Why are there no front line police officers denouncing what the department has said?

I always hear that your average street-working police officer is a good guy, a stand up guy, supports the 2A, believes in the right to self defense, etc...

Where are they? Why will they not stand up and shout, "The department HQ does NOT speak for me!!!"

The silence is deafening.

Because, maybe, they've gotten used to receiving paychecks and would like to continue to do so. Easy for you to criticize -- it's not your livelihood on the line.
 
Holmgren said, "We're not saying that we want citizens to go out there and arm themselves and take the law into their own hands. We want citizens to be good witnesses, to be good report-takers and to identify suspects."

What a retarded statement.

I wonder what Holmgren thinks a good citizen is supposed to do when they are in the process of being robbed at gunpoint. Calling the police, assuming the situation even allowed for it, would do no good. A man that points a gun at you in a situation like this has absolutely no good intentions.

Holmgren's commentary is a scary one. His commentary only works assuming his so-called "good witnesses" aren't "dead bodies". He basically states in a passive manner that people like you or I have no right to defend our lives in dire situations like these. Furthermore, it suggests police aren't there to proactively intervene and stop crime, but they are in fact detectives that show up to crime scenes after-the-fact and jot down the story from witnesses, assuming any survived.

What happened to personal responsibility? Do you really want to depend on others for something as basic and fundamental as your own life? I don't. :barf:
 
If it is legal to burn the flag, then it must be alright to burn Hicks memorial.
After all he was just a good guy. Speaks alot for his "friends".

Semper Fi
 
If it is legal to burn the flag, then it must be alright to burn Hicks memorial.
After all he was just a good guy. Speaks alot for his "friends".

Yeah, but take the cognac first!
 
Oh brother,where to begin:

Friends left balloons, candles and bottles of Hennessy cognac on the street and wrote messages on white boards tied to a fence.
Ain't no telling why that shooting occurred."
"One of the blows was so hard her head hit the wall and it put a hole in the wall," Biletnikoff wrote. After she fell to the ground, Hicks kicked her in the stomach, she told police.

Hicks once called the woman and showed up with a gun in his hand, the woman told police.

The 28-year-old woman, who didn't want her name used, told The Chronicle on Friday that despite the alleged abuse, Hicks was a "good person." Still, she said she very surprised that he was shot and killed in an apparent robbery attempt. "I wouldn't think that he would have done something like that," she said.

Yeah,real good person,sheesh.
 
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