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Why You Camp/Hike with Enough Gun

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Guyon, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. Guyon

    Guyon Member

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    Hikers are usually villified on hiking boards if they mention firearm carry.

    However, this story should be enough to remind folks that they call it the wild for a reason.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/14/bear.attack.ap/index.html

     
  2. Darth Ruger

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    I saw the video of that story this morning. In that report, they said one of the rangers (or wardens, or whoever responded) shot at the bear and actually hit it and it escaped wounded, and then they started hunting it. I don't know which version is correct, wounded or not, or if they've caught up with it yet.
     
  3. mountainclmbr

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    That is why I always carry, even at home. Had a bear breakin attempt at my home about 18 months ago. Dog chased it off, but you never know with bears, mountain lions and human opportunists. I have had the most troubles with the human variety of predator.
     
  4. vynx

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    I read that someone shot at the bear but no blood trail was found.

    I'm thinking I need a Glock 20 in 10mm?

    I just missed a consignment sale of a S&W model 60 in .357 with a 3inch barrel .., that might make a nice hinking gun too.
     
  5. Baba Louie

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    Depends on where you go a-hiking and what you might run into. Bears, Cats, Wolves(?), 2-legged ner-do-wells, rabid skunks, venomous snakes, BigFoot...

    Just like CCW in a city, one needs to tune into the surrounding environment and not allow self and children (especially children) to "ditty-bop" in a condition white, la-de-da mode. One should always have some type of implement for defense of self and family at hand and should not have that right infringed by any, at the risk of repeating myself, by ANY, Gov't agency when THEY are not my keeper, my mother or my dad and things are out there that can, and will, eat you or yours.

    But whaddaIknow?
     
  6. 1911JMB

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    Heres a story about bringing enough gun. An older gentleman I know was hiking out west in the 60's when he was charged by a grizzly bear or brown bear (I don't remember which.) He killed it with one shot between the eyes using his Ruger MK1.
     
  7. Desk Jockey

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    The Cherokee National Forest (where this incident occurred) should re-think their current policy:

    "Use, possession or transportation of firearms, bow & arrows and other arms or ammunition are prohibited, except during designated hunting seasons. While possessing a firearm for the purpose of hunting you must have a valid state hunting license in your possession for the species you intend to hunt. The firearm possessed must be of the type legal for hunting the species that are in season. Firearms must be unloaded during transport. While camping firearms must remain in camp except during legal hunting hours."
    source:http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/cherokee/faq2003/
     
  8. Notch

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    I dont care what the postings in the area say, I dont camp without my Redhawk.


    Stupid laws are there to give you something to ignore.
     
  9. JohnBT

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    The interview I saw this morning said he shot at it with a .380.

    JT
     
  10. Hemicuda

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    when i go for a walk in the woods, i usually carry a Dan Wesson 15-2HV, with hollow point 357's in it... bears are kind of rare in my neck of the woods, but not totally unheard of... even seen 1 or 2 muself over the years... NOT something i care to screw around with...
     
  11. Zen21Tao

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    This is pathetic considering that often times humans in the woods can be far more dangerous than any other animal. In January of this year about 40 miles south of Gaineville two Sante Fe Community College students from Gainesville were killed while camping in the Ocala National Forest. The killer (Leo Boatman) was a 19 year old that stole an AK from him uncle and shot the two students in cold blood for no aparent reason. If I recall correctly the Ocala National Forest was also the scene of one of serial killer Aileen Wuornos' killings. I agree with others that any law banning firearms in a national forest is stupid. People need to be able defend themselves regardless of what type of animal (human's included) it is attacking them.
     
  12. gunsmith

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    the bear was shot with a .380

    enough gun???

    enough to get it angry is about it!
     
  13. 22-rimfire

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    If the gun was a 380, then it was a 380. First I heard that. Enough gun? I would use whatever I got and in many cases it would be a 22. This incident does make you rethink some of your choices for general woods carry. You can pretty much run into a Black Bear anywhere in the Eastern US.
     
  14. Guyon

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    Here's another "rare incident" posted in today's news...

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/16/mt.lion.attack.ap/index.html

     
  15. Pilot

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    Did you ever read "Backpacker" or "Outdoor" magazine? I cancelled my subsriptions years ago as they are far left, ultra liberal and very anti-gun and everything else we value. When I hike, backpack or camp, I'm armed wherever I go.
     
  16. Bulldozer

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    Myself, wife, and young son often camp around Upstate NY. We always have our 357 wheelies loaded.

    Signs or no signs, what cannot be seen is not noticed.
     
  17. Dan Morris

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    Camping, dad n son BOTH carry either 357's or 44mag. We've had to back out of a few bear encounters.......so far, without having to use them. I'd rather have em and not need one than the alternative.
    Dan
     
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    Well, I dunno about that ... though I guess I would never know how many times a bear has seen me that I haven't seen him/her.;)

    But I have almost stepped on a sleeping black bear twice now (not the same bear) and I have found bears in general to be pretty easy to sneak up on. Their sense of smell is supposed to be phenomenal, but their hearing and sight aren't much to brag about.

    I have actually followed bears around for a while, and if you stay downwind and stop moving when they look towards you, you can get awfully close :uhoh:
     
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    Carry in National Forests is usually OK if carry in the same state is OK. It's carry in National Parks that is out. Still stupid though :fire:
     
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    I never went into the woods up in the
    woods around fairbanks AK without
    being armed.Mossberg 500 with slugs
    and S&W M 28 were my companions.
     
  21. Gun Wielding Maniac

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    Speaking of hiking with firearms... I'm kinda lazy and am curious... Is it legal to carry SBR's or machine guns in the woods for self-defense? I know it isnt during hunting season in most states, but, say in KY...? I have a Yugoslavian M92 SBR that I think would be a wonderful camp gun for those long hiking trips. 30 rounds of 7.62x39mm would be a great deterent for both two and four legged predators.
     
  22. Woodland_Annie

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    Let sleeping bears lie...

    Um, why would you want to do that?:neener:

    Such a tragic story, and I was shocked to hear the bear attacked because black bears are not aggressive.:(

    My husband & I went off-roading in a rented Mercury Marquis :rolleyes: in Northern California many years ago. We were driving some mountain road when we spotted a small bear up ahead. I began rolling up my window while my husband yelled for me to get the camera so he could take pictures!:D The bear ran away from us and all we ended up with was a black blur against a backdrop of evergreen trees. That and our memories.

    I'd definitely carry if I'm going into the woods. More in the case of the two legged predator than the four.:eek:
     
  23. PATH

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    A couple of years back I went hiking with my daughter up near Moose Lake in the Western Adirondacks. I carried my P99 and an extra mag. The firearm was for the two legged creatures rather than the four legged. I have since carried a Mod.27 in the woods. I like the .357. I carry two speed loaders with me as well.

    The .357 is large enough for taking on a Black bear as well as a miscreant. I may start carrying a Model 10 though. The odds of being attacked by a Black bear are awful low round these parts. I think the .38 should do the trick. Maybe I'll carry the 10 on my hip and put the 27 in my pack. Just a thought.
     
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    Just had a blurb on cablenews that local forest officials think they've killed the bear involved in the attack. No other details.
     
  25. Leanwolf

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    PATH - "Maybe I'll carry the 10 on my hip and put the 27 in my pack. Just a thought."
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    I don't see the logic in that. Why carry two guns, one "for bad guys," and one "for bad bears?" If a "bad bear" comes at you, you'll not have time to get your 27 out of your backpack.

    Why not just carry your S&W 27, which will handle BOTH?? :confused:

    L.W.
     
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