Model 500 question.
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twoclones
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Renhawk1,
Absolutely. I will be learning from scratch. Don't even have the gear yet but do know a couple of experienced reloader who can advise and teach me.
Primary equipment recommendation so far has been for a Dillon press.
Absolutely. I will be learning from scratch. Don't even have the gear yet but do know a couple of experienced reloader who can advise and teach me.
Primary equipment recommendation so far has been for a Dillon press.
I have been reloading over 25 years, and never used a Dillon press. I guess I am old fashion and have used the RCBS single stage press all the time.
I trust a single stage press more than a automatic press. Sure it takes more time, but when playing with big boys I want to make sure they are right. Also a lot less expensive.
I trust a single stage press more than a automatic press. Sure it takes more time, but when playing with big boys I want to make sure they are right. Also a lot less expensive.
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Twoclones,
Reloading is the way to go for shooting the 500. It's also great for other caibers as well. I also recommend Dillon, but not for the 500.
For the 500 and rifle calibers I use a Redding T7. (Turret Press) Like Redhawk I don't like a progressive when loading up "the big boys".
I use my two Dillon 650xl presses for 45acp, 9mm, 38sp and 357 currently.
The average cost to reload for my 4" 500 is well under 50 cents per round.
Reloading is the way to go for shooting the 500. It's also great for other caibers as well. I also recommend Dillon, but not for the 500.
For the 500 and rifle calibers I use a Redding T7. (Turret Press) Like Redhawk I don't like a progressive when loading up "the big boys".
I use my two Dillon 650xl presses for 45acp, 9mm, 38sp and 357 currently.
The average cost to reload for my 4" 500 is well under 50 cents per round.
neal7250
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Where are you guys buying your bullets and brass from? I just purchaced some from Dillon for $55. per hundred
atlanticfire
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http://www.missouribullet.com/results.php?category=5&secondary=25
For Bullets, Also use Hornady XTP.
But these are cheaper for plinking.
Powder is always H110.
For Bullets, Also use Hornady XTP.
But these are cheaper for plinking.
Powder is always H110.
I get my Bullets from Montana Bullet Works, I use his bullets for 90% of my handguns and rifles.
http://www.montanabulletworks.com/default.php
The brass I ordered from Jamison International. Mark Jamison was the one the actually developed the 500 Mag for S&W with some help from Peter Pi of Cor-bon. I got 500 cases when it first came out, I have to ream each primer pocket because it first came out using large pistol primers, and now they only recommend using rifle primers.
I also picked up 200 cases from Starline.
neal7250, what did you purchase from Dillon? If it was bullets you really need to check out Montana Bullet works.
http://www.montanabulletworks.com/default.php
The brass I ordered from Jamison International. Mark Jamison was the one the actually developed the 500 Mag for S&W with some help from Peter Pi of Cor-bon. I got 500 cases when it first came out, I have to ream each primer pocket because it first came out using large pistol primers, and now they only recommend using rifle primers.
I also picked up 200 cases from Starline.
neal7250, what did you purchase from Dillon? If it was bullets you really need to check out Montana Bullet works.
neal7250
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Thanks for the leads on the bullets guys.
I purchaced 500 S&W brass from Dillon at $55. per 100
I use H110 exclusivly for magnum pistol, but I came across a couple of pounds to LIL Gun, and have been hearing some good things about it with the 500. I'm going to give it a spin.
Redhawk. I feel you with the single stage press, and still have the first one that I ever owned, and will never part with it. Since then I have aquired two 550s and a 650 Dillon. I feel that 550 Dillon, is all of the progressive press that most of us will ever need, and it will make match grade ammo.
IMOHA, the 650 is way overkill, and I haven't learned to trust it like I do the 550. I have never justified the need for it, because it makes ammo so fast.
I purchaced 500 S&W brass from Dillon at $55. per 100
I use H110 exclusivly for magnum pistol, but I came across a couple of pounds to LIL Gun, and have been hearing some good things about it with the 500. I'm going to give it a spin.
Redhawk. I feel you with the single stage press, and still have the first one that I ever owned, and will never part with it. Since then I have aquired two 550s and a 650 Dillon. I feel that 550 Dillon, is all of the progressive press that most of us will ever need, and it will make match grade ammo.
IMOHA, the 650 is way overkill, and I haven't learned to trust it like I do the 550. I have never justified the need for it, because it makes ammo so fast.
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Brass I got was Magtech from MidwayUSA, the bullets I load are 275g Barnes XPB (solid copper) over Longshot powder.
After experimenting with about 20 different bullet/powder combinations, this was the most accurate without being punishing for shooting.
I figure I'd rather load a bit on the calm side and be accurate than load full barn-burner and be all over the place, including a slow second followup shot, if necessary.
After experimenting with about 20 different bullet/powder combinations, this was the most accurate without being punishing for shooting.
I figure I'd rather load a bit on the calm side and be accurate than load full barn-burner and be all over the place, including a slow second followup shot, if necessary.
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neal7250
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Redhawk. I'm going to try some og them bullets that you are using.
Which ones are you using?
Do they come with gas checks?
Do they hold up at magnum velocity?
Any problem with Leading?
I always wanted to try some of thek 30 cal lead bullets for hunting. Any experience with that?
Which ones are you using?
Do they come with gas checks?
Do they hold up at magnum velocity?
Any problem with Leading?
I always wanted to try some of thek 30 cal lead bullets for hunting. Any experience with that?
neal7250,
I use the 370 and the 440 gr. hard cast bullets with gas checks. I have not experienced any leading at all with some of the top loads (Hot).
The bullets hold up great, I have killed , deer, black bear and hogs. All bullets have exited the animals even when bone was hit. These are what I ordered from Montana Bullet Works.
LBT 440 (22) .501 Long Flat Nose -
Gas Checked
LBT 370 (22) .501 Long Flat Nose -
Gas Checked (HT)
I have tried some of the .30 hard cast in my 30-30, and I also use his .338, 375 and 45-70 hard cast bullets in my rifles and Encore hand Cannons.
I use the 370 and the 440 gr. hard cast bullets with gas checks. I have not experienced any leading at all with some of the top loads (Hot).
The bullets hold up great, I have killed , deer, black bear and hogs. All bullets have exited the animals even when bone was hit. These are what I ordered from Montana Bullet Works.
LBT 440 (22) .501 Long Flat Nose -
Gas Checked
LBT 370 (22) .501 Long Flat Nose -
Gas Checked (HT)
I have tried some of the .30 hard cast in my 30-30, and I also use his .338, 375 and 45-70 hard cast bullets in my rifles and Encore hand Cannons.
neal7250
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Redhawk. I have a BFR in 450 Marlin. Do you think those 45-70 hard cast will hold up?
No doubt in my mind at all, they will hold up great. I use them in my 45-70 BFR and in my Marlin 45-70.
I took a black bear in Canada 2 years ago with my Marlin Guide gun with some hot loaded rounds in the 1800 fps range with the 405 gr. hard cast bullets. My buddy also used my rounds in his 45-70 with him taking a black bear that same hunt. Both bear recovered within 20 yards, and only one shot, and no bullet recovered.
The 450 Marlin is no different than a 45-70 loaded in the Marlin Lever load range.
I took a black bear in Canada 2 years ago with my Marlin Guide gun with some hot loaded rounds in the 1800 fps range with the 405 gr. hard cast bullets. My buddy also used my rounds in his 45-70 with him taking a black bear that same hunt. Both bear recovered within 20 yards, and only one shot, and no bullet recovered.
The 450 Marlin is no different than a 45-70 loaded in the Marlin Lever load range.
neal7250
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Rdhawk. I sent you a PM
twoclones
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Double Fire Video
I stumbled across a YouTube video of someone double firing the 500 S&W Magnum!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dinfKUZZNoM
I stumbled across a YouTube video of someone double firing the 500 S&W Magnum!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dinfKUZZNoM
Not only was that a good demonstration of what actually happens, but did you see the poor placement of his hand by the cylinder gap. If he was a little closer to it, he might of been less a few fingers.
That is a good illustration of NOT letting someone without proper handgun experience shoot the 500 Mag.
That is a good illustration of NOT letting someone without proper handgun experience shoot the 500 Mag.
Wow did that guy come close to losing a fingertip! After seeing the pics of the guy who lost part of his thumb to a .460 due to holding it like an idjit I cringed watching that video... You can see how uncomfortable he is, trying to figure out where to put his other hand. He really got lucky....
Whenever I start thinking I really want a .500 I see a video like that, think of my carpal tunnel issues, and think "yeah, .44 mag will do just fine until I can try a .500 to make sure it won't hurt". Kinda what put me off the idea of a Serbu Super Shorty, watching 9 out of 10 people in videos on youtube shooting it then looking at the camera and saying "ow!" Another 'try before you buy' proposition for me.
gp911
Whenever I start thinking I really want a .500 I see a video like that, think of my carpal tunnel issues, and think "yeah, .44 mag will do just fine until I can try a .500 to make sure it won't hurt". Kinda what put me off the idea of a Serbu Super Shorty, watching 9 out of 10 people in videos on youtube shooting it then looking at the camera and saying "ow!" Another 'try before you buy' proposition for me.
gp911
The sad thing is, a lot of what you see on u-tube about the 500 Mag is a bunch of BS and poor gun handling.
The 500 mag in an experienced persons hands in a great tool.
Don't let a bunch of clowns discourage from owning a 500 mag. I own 2 of them, and I would never let anyone shoot it that did not already know how to properly handle handguns, and have a lot of handgun experience.
I hate seeing them idiots on u-tube.
The 500 mag in an experienced persons hands in a great tool.
Don't let a bunch of clowns discourage from owning a 500 mag. I own 2 of them, and I would never let anyone shoot it that did not already know how to properly handle handguns, and have a lot of handgun experience.
I hate seeing them idiots on u-tube.
neal7250
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That guy should have never been allowed to fire that pistol. The way that he was holding that gun, he shouldn't even have fired a 357 mag.
politicaldookie
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That Dbag in the youtube video reminds me of Tropic Thunder...you never go full retard.
neal7250
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I have a BFR in 500 S&W, and it is a joy to shoot. I also have a BFR in 450 Marlin, and it had far more recoil than the 450. U better have on ear protection, or you're going into the twilight zone when you pull the trigger.
twoclones
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I liked that one too. There are a couple of others which are very scarry. Seen 2 where the shooter literally gets hit in the head with the revolver.
Must all be in the grip...
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