I have access to a model 60 S&W in stainless steel. R174xxx (1977 I think) Can I shoot +p out of this for a comparison shoot?
I want to shoot this side by side with a few other snubs.
I want to shoot this side by side with a few other snubs.
My M60 #R14800X paper work includes this info for S&W branded ammo. Nothing about +P ammo. View attachment 819522
See bottom right for ammo.
SAAMI SHOWs +P 3,000 PSI higher then 38 special.
Let's just say that in the days before everybody had a chrono that ammo manufacturers fudged on their velocity figures. Either they did things like shoot it out of 8", or extrapolated what they thought it should be, or just flat out lied.When was that gun made? The ballistics of the ammo in that chart is way beyond +P velocities you’ll see today.
Keep in mind this is from a Smith & Wesson owner's manual printed in 1993: "Revolvers in which .38 Special +P ammunition can be used: • J frames - Models 60-4 (full underlug barrel only), 60-7, 60-8, 640, 649-2 • K frames - Models 10, 13, 14, 15, 19, 64, 65, 66, 67 • L frames - Models 581, 586, 681, 686 • N frames - Models 27, 28, 627 Here is S&W's warning about +P ammunition - Quote: "Plus P" (+P) ammunition generates pressures significantly in excess of the pressures associated with standard .38 Special ammunition. Such Pressures may affect the wear characteristics or exceed the margin of safety built into many revolvers and could therefore be DANGEROUS. "Plus P" (+P) ammunition should not be used in medium (K frame) revolvers manufactured prior to 1958. Such pre-1958 medium (K frame) revolvers can be identified by the absence of a Model Number stamped inside the yoke cut of the frame (i.e. the area of the frame exposed when the cylinder is in the open position). The "Plus-P-Plus" (+P+) marking on ammunition merely designates that it exceed established industry standards, but the designation does not represent defined pressure limits and therefore such ammunition may vary significantly as to the pressures generated. "Plus-P-Plus" (+P+) ammunition is not recommended for use in Smith & Wesson firearms."
“Plus-P” (+P) ammunition generates pressures in excess of the pres- sures associated with standard ammunition. Such pressures may affect the wear characteristics or exceed the margin of safety built into some revolvers and could therefore be DANGEROUS. This ammunition should not be used in Smith & Wesson medium (K frame) revolvers manufactured prior to 1958. Such pre-1958 medium (K-frame) revolvers can be identified by the absence of a model number stamped inside the yoke cut of the frame (i.e., the area of the frame exposed when the cylinder is in the open position).
I have access to a model 60 S&W in stainless steel. R174xxx (1977 I think) Can I shoot +p out of this for a comparison shoot?
I want to shoot this side by side with a few other snubs.
I talked to S&W several years ago. Tech said any Model marked gun will handle +P ammo without problem.