modern design blackpowder revolver?

[indoorsoccerfrea]

has anyone ever heard of more modern looking guns (j/k/n frame) that are blackpowder?

i've seen older style guns that fire cartridges, as in the walker with the conversion cylinder, but does it also work the opposite?

reason i'm asking is that im 19 with anti-gun parents,:banghead: so getting a handgun gifted to me isn't going to happen, so if I can get a blackpowder revolver that circumvents that. I have my permit, not that it matters for blackpowder...

any idears?

 

[Clermont]

Pietta makes a copy of the Colt 1873 single action pistol that has been modified with a cap and ball cylinder. Uberti also made a replica Colt 1873 cap and ball pistol also, but I believe Uberti discontinued it. Both these models cannot easily be converted to cartridge, otherwise it would have been classified as a FFL firearm.

 

[mykeal]

Why the need for 'modern looking design'? Guns are not cosmetic accessories; 'style' is of no importance.

 

[indoorsoccerfrea]

mykeal,
you're right about guns not being cosmetic accessories, however the older walker style frame is a lot longer and also i don't like the way it fits my hand. not to mention the barrels on them are 5 or more inches. i'm looking for something that could be carried.

clermont,
I think you got the wrong idea...I don't want something that fires cartridges. I want a blackpowder revolver that LOOKS like a modern revolver.

 

[mykeal]

How about an 1862 Pocket Navy or Pocket Police? Or a Baby Dragoon? They don't 'look' modern, but they have a small frame, smaller even than a J frame.

 

[Clermont]

The Pietta and Uberti cap and ball replicas of the Colt 1873 revolver are not cartridge guns although the original was, and Pietta and Uberti make the cartridge version too. These cap and ball revolvers are based on modern cartridge guns. I don't believe you will find anything more modern than the Colt 1873 single action that also can be had as a cap and ball revolver.

 

[kBob]

My advice is to save up all your change everynight for two years and buy whatever modern gun you like and if you still want black powder then buy one.

Meanwhile why not spend money on hand for a firearms safety class. If you really want a BP handgun, take the NRA Bpackpowder pistol and Revolver Safety Course. Supposed to be 12 hours total and some hands on firing,

If what you are really after is a modern gun take the NRA Handgun Safety Course, again 12 hours and some hands on range time.

If you are trying to get around the federal requirement to be 21 for purchasing a handgun just to have a weapon.......that's the sort of reason there is a federal age limit.

If you are truely interested in BP as a sport, after you get training, look at several different BP revolvers. There have been threads even recentlyabout small frame guns like the Colt Baby Dragoon and guns built on that sort of small frame and threads on 1851/1860 Colt revolvers with short barrels.

Whatever, get the training first. When I was teaching I found that some folks that thought they wanted a gun decided otherwise when they learned what was involved or just decided they did not like shooting.

 

[scrat]

Why a handgun.

Your parents are Anti

You are not

I presume you still live with your parents. You dont want to go around the bush with this. Your an adult you need to respect the fact that if you live with your parents its their house. However in your situation i would actually start off with a shotgun or rifle modern version modern style nothing too fancy. Take the safety course. Get the locks and a case to keep it in at home. Take it to the range regulary so that they see you are responsible enough to own a firearm and to use it responibly. Now if you ever get the chance to take one of them to the range DO IT. Talking and showing them at home you can do this till your face turns blue. Taking one of your parents to the range and letting them shoot is the best thing you can ever do. Like others have said if you are really interested in black powder then good too. however you have to understand black powder is a different way of shooting. you could buy a .410 or 12 guage. buy a box of shells go to the range shoot them up and come home with only the gun. You buy a bp revolver and you will be going back home with the caps, balls, POWDER. more stuff they probably dont want to know about or have to see. Make your choices wisely make sure you check out black powder essentials to get more information on black powder

 

[Joe Demko]

I believe what he's looking for is a small frame, DA, black powder revolver. I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. There were probably historical pieces like that from Europe or the UK; but I've never seen a modern repro.

 

[AussieTH]

How about the Navy Arms Bisley - looks reasonably modern and is small?

 

[Chawbaccer]

If you are wanting to carry concealed, there is no black powder loop hole, you will still need a license just as you would with a cartridge arm.

 

[indoorsoccerfrea]

i have a permit, thats not an issue.

edit: Scrat, I have a rifle and a shotgun, I just wanted a handgun to go with my permit. I know I can buy a handgun in a FTF legally, but I like the idea of blackpowder. It's a strange mix, I know...

 

[Macmac]

So far as I know the Ruger Old Army is the most modern looking BP hand gun from a factory.

There are semi auto looking single shots as custom target guns.

I hear but never tried it, that a 1911 types will run on BP, but you replace modern powders with bp....

I guess the very most modern BP gun is a little 5 shot derringer made by North American Arms. The 'Companion". This is in .22.

Most guys into bp are also into traditional old ways.

 

[nalioth]

clermont,
I think you got the wrong idea...I don't want something that fires cartridges.

He didn't get anything wrong.


Uberti 1873 black powder revolvers


Stock photo - not my guns.

If you are wanting to carry concealed, there is no black powder loop hole, you will still need a license just as you would with a cartridge arm.

Perhaps in Indiana, but not some other states.

 

[Clermont]

These are my .22 cal. cap and ball versions of North American Arms cartridge mini revolvers.

 

[Oyeboten]

Ooops...

 

[husker]

I dido the ruger old army. adjustable rear sight. modern front sight. their a nice pistol. its my next purchase after i get my WALKER bought and payed for.

 

[bigbadgun]

Clermont
I have been looking at those little NAA c&b s how do they shoot are they good and how far out are they accurate?

 

[Clermont]

To: bigbadgun

In addition to the two North American Arms cap and ball minis,I have three Freedom Arms cap and ball mini revolvers including this one. However, I am a collector, not a shooter, so all of them are new in the boxes. Even the cylinders are unturned. You can probably get answers to your questions at www.naaminis.com.

 

[arcticap]

Here's a thread with several reports about the performance of the NAA's,
i.e. - post #22 mentions obtaining 5 shots on a paper plate at 7 yards:


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=331775&highlight=NAA+.22+mini

 

[MCgunner]

You could probably put a boot grip or holster grip on that NAA, is a lot more shootable that way. I have the holster grip on a .22LR version. It ain't much, but it beats rough language in a pinch.

My ROA is a modern handgun with modern accuracy that happens to shoot BP. It's a little tough to conceal, but one heck of a lot better shooter than an NAA and with a lot more horsepower to boot, full .45 caliber. Just depends on what's important to you.

Also, those NAA/Freedom arms guns, I understand you can shoot them with Alliant Bullseye, a smokeless powder, would make 'em even more modern. I wouldn't mind getting an NAA to play with. Would be a good tool to have in the collection if the worst case scenario goes down in DC with this commie dictatorship they seem to be setting up. I do have a CVA Remington pocket .31, also, and a mold. Neat thing about .31, I can cut open a 00 buck shot shell if I get desperate for balls. It's a brass frame gun, but seems to hold up well. The loads ain't real heavy after all.

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