Modify Rem 700 for stripper clips?

[.455_Hunter]

Has anybody modified their 700 to use standard 5 round Mauser/Springfield stripper clips? I guess a clip guide could be added to the rear receiver bridge.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Hunter

 

[justin22885]

well, thats how youd have to do it, cut the guide in the rear of the receiver like on the mauser... want to impress me? convert one to take garand enblocs

 

[ThomasT]

Whats the point? If you have a scope mounted the stripper clips won't work. IIRC you can buy new bottom metal to convert your 700 to take detachable mags. That would be a better solution it would seem.

 

[justin22885]

unfortunately those detachable mags for something like a 700 are pricey compared to just M14 or AR10 mags if you could find them (or even better yet would be G3 mags)

with practice one can reload a bolt action as fast with stripper clips as you would with a box magazine, but stripper clips are much lighter, much cheaper, and are essentially disposable, id take a stripper clip fed bolt action over a box mag fed bolt action if those box mags were expensive/uncommon, or if i was going to leave the rifle restricted to 5 rounds in the mag

 

[ThomasT]

Justin you are correct. The mags are pricey and so is the bottom metal. But the OP lives in colorado and I am guessing he hunts. So a scope is a good idea for that region.

If you figure the cost to add stripper feed lips (if it can even be done) the cost of adding a scout scope base type set up and a new extended eye relief scope I bet the cost is just about a wash. Plus the bottom metal and mags can be done by the owner without a gunsmith.

Either way this will be expensive. And not needed on a hunting rifle. The OP might be better off with a military action for a base and build the rifle from there.

The OP didn't list a specific round. A surplus 8mm mauser could be transformed pretty easy and the 8mm round is an excellent choice for elk and deer. I killed my second elk with a custom rifle built on a military mauser action in 8mm and one shot did the job. And it still has the stripper feed lips on it.

 

[justin22885]

he could just drill and tap the front and rear ring for a picatinny with off-set scope mounts... though come to think of it if he drilled and tapped the receiver for a picatinny i wonder if he could have a small amount of material overhang the front of the receiver he could cut the stripper clip guides into without actually cutting them into the receiver itself.. just modify a length of rail to supply both an off-set scope mount and the guides

if your rear is drilled and tapped, get a piece of steel maybe 1/4" thick, file into it the shape of the stripped clip guide (T shape) and drill that out and bolt it to rear of your receiver with the clip guide portion overhanging the rear ring and see if it'll work without permanent modification to the receiver

 

[.455_Hunter]

Thanks for the input folks!

Here is the story...

Ever since I was young, I have admired my Grandfather's early post-war Winchester Model 70 .270 with the stripper clip guide, as it seemed a great blend of sporting and military features.

I am a lefty, and the the Model 700LH in question has been fitted with a 90's vintage brown Ramline stock (non-Monte Carlo), had the factory open sights installed, and will never be again fitted with a scope. I plan on zeroing with M2 ball equivalent at 200 yds and calling it good as a "knock about"/SHTF truck gun. The detachable mag thing does not really interest me, nor does fitting any sort of rail system. However, having a belt pouch full of charged stripper clips would be quite handy.

I know all of this flies in the face of modern tacticool, but that is OK- I am used to it.

 

[MountainBear]

Yes, it can be done. I have heard stories from competitive shooters in the 60's and 70's cutting in stripper clips and modifying an adl mag box and a thicker stock so they could run five down in the mag. From what I have heard, it can be tricky to do right so the clip ejects when the bolt is closed. If I recall, the m40 rifle had slots. Do a search over at snipers hide. It occurs to me I've seen blueprints for the cut and I think that's where.

 

[eastbank]

it may be cheaper to find a rem 721 in 3006 and go from there. my rem 721 in 3006 was made in 1948. and has the clip guides milled in it from the factory as does my 722 in .308 and 257 roberts. eastbank.

 

[jim in Anchorage]

Thanks for the input folks!

Here is the story...

Ever since I was young, I have admired my Grandfather's early post-war Winchester Model 70 .270 with the stripper clip guide, as it seemed a great blend of sporting and military features.

I am a lefty, and the the Model 700LH in question has been fitted with a 90's vintage brown Ramline stock (non-Monte Carlo), had the factory open sights installed, and will never be again fitted with a scope. I plan on zeroing with M2 ball equivalent at 200 yds and calling it good as a "knock about"/SHTF truck gun. The detachable mag thing does not really interest me, nor does fitting any sort of rail system. However, having a belt pouch full of charged stripper clips would be quite handy

I know all of this flies in the face of modern tacticool, but that is OK- I am used to it.

You sure that M70 was post war? I'v never seen one with striper clip guides.

 

[Bart B.]

As I recall, only the Winchester Match models had a clip guide. But I've seen a few Match model receivers rebarreled to sporting versions with some other cartridge than .30-06 or .308.

 

[Elkins45]

I was going to suggest just trading for a milsurp that had one already until I read the part where you said it was a LH gun.

Maybe a compromise would be new bottom metal that takes flush mags. You could keep two mags and charge the one out of the gun with stripper clips, like the M-16 magazine stripper clip guides the army uses?

Whatever you decide, it's certain you will end up paying dearly for it.

 

[jim in Anchorage]

As I recall, only the Winchester Match models had a clip guide. But I've seen a few Match model receivers rebarreled to sporting versions with some other cartridge than .30-06 or .308.

No. Both my pre war plain sporter M70's [in 30-06] have clip guides.

 

[Sav .250]

Question...... What`s to be gained ?

 

[justin22885]

so has the receiver been drilled and tapped on it?

 

[sawdeanz]

I will be following this thread. I've always wondered why this isn't a more common feature offered or at the very least supported by aftermarket solutions. With the popularity of the scout rifle concept and the many disadvantages and difficulties in converting surplus military rifles, I too would like to know how this could be done. I like the idea of mounting a guide via the drilled and tapped holes on a receiver.

I really like my Ishapore. Utilizing cheap and easy to find m14 stripper clips I can load those rimless 7.62Nato rounds really fast and easily. M14 "reload packs" are cheap and easy to find and allow you to stock up ready to go 50 round battle. I imagine that would work with any .308 based cartridge. Most other surplus guns would need to be converted to a modern round at a large expense. Of course once you get over 10 rounds it is faster to use a magazine. I'm not sure how easy it would be with the single stack type magazines (internal or external) that many bolt guns use now.

 

[.455_Hunter]

You sure that M70 was post war? I'v never seen one with striper clip guides.

The serial dates to the immediate post-war period (1947?), but the gun still has all pre-war features, including the awkward safety and (apparently) charger clip guide.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Question...... What`s to be gained ?

A LH .30-06 bolt gun with rapid reloading capability without messing with extra mags.

 

[.455_Hunter]

it may be cheaper to find a rem 721 in 3006 and go from there. my rem 721 in 3006 was made in 1948. and has the clip guides milled in it from the factory as does my 722 in .308 and 257 roberts. eastbank.

Very nice!

I have my uncle's 721 and did not event think about that feature being a clip guide. To me, they usually have retention "ears" to keeps things aligned.

 

[.455_Hunter]

so has the receiver been drilled and tapped on it?

Yes- factory drilled and tapped for a scope mount.

 

[Jim Watson]

Once upon a time you could get peep sight bases with clip guides milled in.

 

[justin22885]

would there be enough space to add the stripper clip guide in front of the rear ring as opposed to cutting into the receiver? if so, do what i said earlier, fabricate a strip guide that screws on top of the rear ring utilizing the drilled and tapped holes for the scope mount... then you'll have a stripper clip guide that requires zero modification to your rifle

 

[justin22885]

here.. i just sketched this out real quick to illustrate the idea i was trying to describe that'll work for a simple stripper guide that wont involve cutting your receiver.. clearly the dimensions are off because this was just a really quick sketch, but im sure you get the idea

 

[Bart B.]

Jim in Anchorage,

Right you are about pre-war 70's have the clip guide. I was referring to post war ones but forgot to state that; never heard of one having it. But if yours do, the surely were very early post war ones

Stripper clip guides were made first in 1963 for Win 70's chambered for the .308 that screwed onto the bridge. They overhung forward enough to let the clip go down in front of the open bolt as shown in that good graphics above.

 

[Howard Roark]

Ken Farrell used to make stripper clip adaptors that screwed onto the rear scope mounting holes. He may be able to help you. Google Ken Farrell Industries.