Moly grease in slide rails?

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Has anyone ever tried periodically lubricating their metal-frame pistol rails with moly grease? I've read that moly forms a film over porous metals which will reduce friction. It seems to me that an application of moly to a porous finish such as parkerized steel would provide a base layer underneath any oil used later. My thinking is mainly geared towards some of these endurance competitions people use such as the 1000 round 1911 versus Glock matches. I was thinking that if you periodically used moly grease (say once every 10 times you clean and lube the weapon) then it would leave sort of a backup lubrication for when the gun oil gets gunked up.

Thoughts anyone?
 
I've read of at least one other Glock owner that does this.

Sounds logical to me! And I see no down-side...

Of course, with oil additive/engine treatments, they recommend that you do not add the stuff before engine break-in, say, 24,000-miles.

I've considered using liquid Teflon Lubricant on my Glocks.

--Ray
 
I'm not sure if it's because of the dry-heat here in the SW, but I've not been a "happy-camper" with gun oils, especially on the rails...I know in one case it caused some failures...
I shoot every week rotating my guns, and in the interval they become almost bone-dry....It's like you have to apply right before you head out & shoot.
Gun greases, however, I've found to be more reliable & gives a nice even lubrication during its' wait time..
Personally, I think many who don't shoot regularly, don't inspect & or possibly carry for long times w/o firing their weapon are playing "Russian Roulette" with reliability...
My point: I'm a firm believer in most greases, except Vaseline & K-Y..:)
I use RIG +P Stainless Steel Lube.
Presently, using this & am quite satisfied...Little jar will last a long time...
 
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I own one stainless steel metal on metal auto. I use RIG +P Stainless Steel Lube. The slide to frame tolerances are very tight and I've been pleased with this grease lube.
 
Mil surplus LSA works well. There is a dry moly spray lube that goes on wet but dries completely as an alternative.The dry with a light touch of Mobil 1 works well too.
 
The original military grease for the Garand, and the M-14, for the bolt lugs and op rods, is still made, and I use it for the rails on all my semi-auto handguns.

Lubriplate 130-A ($8 per pound).... it won't get hot and run, it won't gum in the cold, and it can be applied thinly enough so that you don't see it. All of my firearms that don't ge tfired frequently, have a thin coat of it in the safes.
 
I'm not a big fan of grease unless I can't avoid it (places where oil will fling off or as specified in the manual).

Grease is thicker and stickier. That makes it a dist/grit magnet.

When I do use grease on firearms, I use Lubriplate. It's very thin and water resistant (it's used as an outboard motor lubricant). On automobiles and other machines, I use whatever is spec'd in the service manual.
 
Of course, with oil additive/engine treatments, they recommend that you do not add the stuff before engine break-in, say, 24,000-miles.

On the 1911 vs Glock torture tests. I'd suspect selecting a powder with minimal residue will go farther for 1000 round performance than any lube will. My neigbors Kahr PM40 started choking after about 100 rounds of UMC ball. Sure, it has terribly dirty powder, but the point is that the buildup of powder residue is what choked it up, not lubrication.

Mind you, I'm not ignoring lubrication, just saying it's minor in these torture test compared to residue buildup in my thinking.

Moly isn't an additive, but it does make for a good pre-lube when you put engines together. I've used it several times on main, rod and cam bearings on freshly rebuilt motors. It's actually what comes in most engine rebuild kits for assembly lube. It's great protection before the oil gets pumping on a rebuilt motor. Prevents scoring. You run the motor for 20 minutes at 1500rpm, then dump moly contaminated oil and change it.

On guns, I'm not sure I'd want moly being able to get on my clothing since it's black and nasty. Maybe on the rails, then assembled, thoroughly wiped, cycled liberally by hand, wiped again. I hate that stuff, great lube, but just downright nasty to clean up. Besides, I'd use the red Mobil 1 synthetic grease instead, but that's just me. As a gear head, I just love synthetic lubricants, they last longer and hold up better to extremes. Particularly water when dunking my hubs in muck and puddles.
 
I use Tetra spray on mine. It does "soak" in and give greater lubricity to the metal parts in contact.
 
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Don't use a moly grease but use a dry moly lube. I just spray a little in the cap and apply it with a Q-tip. Dries within a minute.

Saw in one of the gun forums where a guy with to much time on his hands tried many different lubes. Chucked metal in a lathe and put pressure on it till it squealed. Dry moly held up the longest. Rem oil without teflon came in second. Everything else was far behind in durability.:uhoh:
 
I spoke with one of the gunsmiths at Springfield Armory's custom shop about grease. He told me that Springfield does NOT recommend grease on any of its guns, especially XDs. CLP, Otis or other regular gun oil was what he recommended.
 
Switched to Hopps #9 recently, seemed like Rem Oil was too thin.

Will have to try Moly grease. Do I get in a gun shop or a auto parts store?
 
Switched to Hopps #9 recently, seemed like Rem Oil was too thin.

Will have to try Moly grease. Do I get in a gun shop or a auto parts store





Try Wal-Mart or AutoZone.
 
I clean the slide and rails with gun scrubber or equiv. Then apply this stuff with a q-tip sparingly. **KEY** - let dry 2 hours and re-assemble. It leaves a dry teflon film that creates a very slick surface. Make sure to shake it well, as it uses Naptha as a carrier, then the naptha completely dries up and leaves the dry teflon. Lowe's carries it.

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I've never had any sort of lubrication related problem as far I can tell. From what I've seen its unlikely I'm going to wear our my gun from slide on rails friction. I imagine for most of us a slathering of vasoline or chicken fat in the rails would provide plenty of lubrication and worrying about the porosity of metals, bonding lubricants, and greases than whiten our teeth while we shoot are unnecessary.

(I don't run chicken fat on my guns although it might shooting smell delicious. I'm using up a syringe of wilson's grease and when its empty I'll just refill it with something from the garage, maybe mobil 1 or something.)
 
Wet is ok. Lube the slide, frame rails, guide rod, and barrel. Rack the slide about 20 times then wipe of the excess. Very simple. It will not run or drip. I use regular moly lube that would be used in a grease gun.
 
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