Montel Williams and Gun Registration - Give me your opinion on this clip

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I got no problem with his rant until his spiel about putting "locator chips" on firearms slated for private citizen ownership. There are a myriad of problems with this, both technological and philosophical in nature.

First, such a chip does not exist. The closest thing we have to it is an RFID chip, and those can only scan such an equipped firearm at very close range. Any other kind of device such as a GPS locator, would run out of power in a matter of days.

Second, and more importantly, it is NOT the government's job to track firearms. PERIOD. It is not the government's business. Never has been, never will be. It would make as much sense as putting "locator chips" on underwear.
 
This guy is a total liberal and is playing a sick game. Why doesn't he just outright say what he means? Put chips in our guns so they know where it is? Maybe they can just implant chips in our brains so they can watch our every move, just to make sure we don't do anything wrong at any moment. After all, big brother only wants whats best for us right? We have freedom and have the right to privacy! And he gave it all away with the statement, if our guns ends up in Mexico, then we will have trouble.. LOL.. So, I guess he is also believing the hype that American gun owners are supplying Mexican drug cartels with their weapons? BS!

Watch out for this guy! I know for a fact who he voted for during the last election. If they want to put chips into anything they should put chips into felons and violent criminals who leave our prison systems, since they commit a majority of the violent crimes in our country, not law abiding citizens.
 
The problem with that is WHY the Gov wants to know where my guns are. It won't be to give them back to me if they get stolen.

Not to mention registration, or some other sort of "tracking" system has always lead to confiscation and always will.

This is the obvious other problem
such a chip does not exist. The closest thing we have to it is an RFID chip, and those can only scan such an equipped firearm at very close range. Any other kind of device such as a GPS locator, would run out of power in a matter of days.
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One difference between me and Montell is that I'm not gullible enough to believe Obama. I heard what he said, I just don't believe him... Just heard blah, blah, blah.




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That has to be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Well it is way up there on the dumb list. Next thing that he will want is to put a picture in th news paper of the people that bought guns this week. The only thing that such a chip could be used for is confiscation. I like how he tries to paint it as this minor little detail and not a new law at all. Some people argh.
 
What is interesting about that clip is when Montel begins to imitate a gun owner he slips into the modern version of the Stepen Fetchit routine and suddenly develops a southern accent and poor speech patterns. It is obviously his attempt to reinforce the negative stereotype of a gun owner as an uneducated southern redneck.
 
I did't know Montel was still around. I see why now.

If he want to put a tracking chip in his gun he can go ahead but not mine.
 
Nice logic Montel!!! Just another attempt to slide their rediculous laws under the radar! I see what he was doing with that accent, making fun of the southerners like they were a bunch of uneducated baffoons, who's the racist???
 
Animal Mother

I noticed the accent etc also. Was offended by it, and think it was racist.

First, such a chip does not exist.
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Maybe, maybe not, but they darn sure have on in EVERY cell phone manufactured. For 'emergency' purposes every phone manufactured has a GPS locator in it. if I understand it correctly you can turn it off so that the marketing people can't track you, but the government can access it anytime.

If you think Big Brother can't find you, you're wrong.

Second, and more importantly, it is NOT the government's job to track firearms. PERIOD.
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And, none of their business what I own either.
 
The antis would have to compromise heavily on other things first. Let people in all 50 states buy newly manufactured suppressed M16 SBRs without a tax stamp, and just maybe I'll think about it.

What happens when a person store it in their basement and the signal can't reach?

Another point is that RFID scanners, like all technology, are becoming more compact and more powerful as they become less expensive. It's not absurd to say that withing 5 years it will be possible to scan RFID from over 150 feet with a small handheld device - just cruise through a neighborhood scanning each house until you find a bunch of nice shiny new firearms. Woot! Get 2 or 3 scanners and triangulate the position of every gun in the house!
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Except for the ones in my tin foil hat... I mean... homemade Faraday cage. :neener:
 
In this clip, Montel sounds like a know-it-all who doesn't know much about electronics. Criminals could easily destroy such a locating chip. Law abiding citizens wouldn't. We would have yet another situation where the government would be controlling law abiding citizens and making it easier for criminals.

Montel also seems to think the government is all-powerful, slick and efficient. This system would be a logistical nightmare. The bumbling, fumbling government would get it wrong most of the time. All kinds of innocent people would end up behind bars. As a practical matter, the government cannot control the supply and the possession of all guns in the entire country.

Has Montel been watching too many cartoons or something?
 
Umm Isn't Montel ....the guy who threatened to blowup a 17 year old high school girl ????? Why anyone cares what this guy has to say is beyond me.
 
What is interesting about that clip is when Montel begins to imitate a gun owner he slips into the modern version of the Stepen Fetchit routine and suddenly develops a southern accent and poor speech patterns. It is obviously his attempt to reinforce the negative stereotype of a gun owner as an uneducated southern redneck.
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I noticed this as well. It was quite telling and it is an overt means of revealing his bias. Not to mention the fact that it was quite insulting.

Heavy
 
There's certainly some flaws in his argument. He simply doesn't get it. He doesn't understand the 2nd amendment.

Our founding fathers did.

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington
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I also found his "hick" accent to be very offensive and belittling of gunowners.
 
Registration, police approval, state approval, special taxes, waiting periods, and extensive background checks should apply to semi-autos as well as automatic weapons.
 
"It would make as much sense as putting "locator chips" on underwear."

Or on known felons. :rolleyes:
 
My problem with his argument - explain how this could possibly make us safer.

Can he demonstrate one time or place, and any historical time/place will suffice, where the average person was made safer by restricting access to hand-held weapons?

Until he can do that, he shouldn't be arguing for further restrictions on our rights.
 
Maybe, maybe not, but they darn sure have on in EVERY cell phone manufactured. For 'emergency' purposes every phone manufactured has a GPS locator in it. if I understand it correctly you can turn it off so that the marketing people can't track you, but the government can access it anytime.

If you think Big Brother can't find you, you're wrong.
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Difficult for a cell phone to give away your location if the battery is dead or removed.
 
Let's not stop with the guns. Heck, let's embed a chip in the child's body at birth so we can follow him/her wherever they go. What's wrong with that?

:barf::barf:
 
Montel Williams?!?

What is this, the '80s?

I thought he had gone into a hermitage or something.
 
Did you really expect anyone on THR to say " Gee, that sounds like a good idea. I think Montel's onto something." ?

He tanked for me when he kept bringing Sylvia Brown on his show after she'd been repeatedly proved a fraud
 
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