Moral Problem

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

It would appear to me to be a felony.

Take one good and long hard look at yourself in the mirror buddy. You can go two ways with this issue; you can recognize that your 'friend' with the truck gun is of no harm to himself or others and as a result this ownership of a firearm is not an issue, and ergo any government interference is crap.

OR

You can illogically justify reporting him for the sake of "rules and rules" and throw ethics out of the argument.

I'm really hoping you pick the first one and apply the principals behind it in the rest of your life. If you don't, it's very telling of who you are on the inside.

 

[TheLastBoyScout]

Only thing worse than a buddy___er is an informant.

No worse informant than an ATF informant.

I can't believe I have to explain this.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

Since you looked this up, even after all the advice you've received already, you must still be considering it??

No, someone asked me if it was law or campus policy.

 

[Grandpa Shooter]

Let this be part of your total college learning experience. Back in my day we had college protests against governmental policies and actions which formed the basis for personal evaluation of the concept of right and wrong. You have just been subjected to one such learning experience. College is more like a proving ground for the values you learned growing up then it is for higher education.

Most of us on here paid our dues in the 60's and 70's when society was in a state of flux and upheaval. We had to come to grips with those ideas and form our own "moral compass." My son who is 23 is dealing with that now in the work day world. I for one am glad to not be college age at this time.

Accept that for a moment you were dazed and confused, but your own moral compass pointed you in the right direction. I am glad you did not act rashly and make a mess of things. Forgive yourself for being temporarily blinded and move on. Grow now while you have the chance.

We are glad you are here. Feel free to question things and look to others for guidance.

 

[ZeSpectre]

Since you looked this up, even after all the advice you've received already, you must still be considering it??? Amazing...

Ease up folks, he was just answering my question from earlier.
Still if it's a felony I personally would probably give the person in question a nudge to let them know in case they were unaware.

P.S. What a damned stupid thing to be a felony!

 

[KelVarnson]

Loose Cannon took the words out of my mouth, and made them eloquent in the process:

if our rule of law society was based on malum in se(wrong because it is)insted of malum prohibitum(wrong because its illegal)this thread wouldnt exist

IMHO, laws should be something that LEOs, prosecutors, etc can fall back on, when they catch someone doing something harmful. I don't consider carrying a gun in a car harmful, in and of itself.

As far as being P.O.'d because someone "can" do something or "chose to" do something I am not allowed to do... I was walking through the park downtown a couple of weeks ago, and the city workers, including a few cops, were setting up for some city event. I watched a cop lean over and use his collapsible baton to flick a piece of trash out of the gutter.

It bothered me beacuse I am not allowed by law to even have a collapsible baton (or else I would), and here's a guy using it way outside of it's intended purpose. He may as well have been using the butt of his Glock to drive a tent pole into the ground. Maybe it was harmless, but I thought it was poor judgement.

"I'm the only one here that I know of that is qualified to use this baton"

 

[zxcvbob]

I think he was just answering my question from earlier.
Still if it's a felony I personally would probably give the person in question a nudge to let them know in case they were unaware.

I think you are right. I missed that. (Sorry about that YiL.)

P.S. What a damned stupid thing to be a felony!

I think that is actually Schumer et al's end game to disarm us; create so many laws that it is impossible to live one's life without committing some felony or another. When they want to take someone's guns, all they have to do is figure out which disqualifying laws that person is accidently violating.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

The guy almost made a mistake, BUT HE DIDN'T! He was no doubt in the wrong by even pondering the idea, we gave him a reaming and he realized it was stupid of him to let jealousy ALMOST get the best of him...

Everyone makes mistakes, yesitsloaded didn't even make a mistake, he just thought about making one...Cut him a little slack for god's sake.

Edit: And in the process of getting up for a sec, and writing this, there have been retractions posted.

 

[Geno]

You know what to do!!! Just relax, and get back on your books!!! Get the best grades you can, and get the Hades out of that school ASAP...with a diploma!!! Then, go get your job, and buy lots of firearms!!!

Doc2005, Graduate Professor

I usually would never pull rank or position. In this case, I make an exception.

 

[Feanaro]

If it doesn't hurt anyone, MYOB.

 

[CountGlockula]

I think self-righteousness is a disease that well all fall into. We need make sure that we check our motives to see if it's benefitting self or others.

 

[Werewolf]

I don't want to turn him in, but is that the "right" thing to do.

Depends...

If you are a moral absolutist then turning him in is the right thing to do. Absolutists are zero tolerance types who believe their morality is the morality. You've stated he broke the law. If you are an absolutist you must turn him in.

If you are a moral relativist then turning him in is a situational thing. A judgement is required based on circumstance, consequences, etc etc. If you are a moral relativist and his value system sees no wrong in what he's doing and the law he's breaking is unjust then you probably shouldn't turn him in.

Personally - I vote NO. Don't turn him in. Not all laws are just.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

At this point after thinking about it I'm equally disappointed in myself for considering turning in a fellow gun owner like the ATF gestapo and that doing so would have been perfectly legal and might have ruined his life. I feel better about the whole thing now because just the thought of doing something disturbed me to the point that I posted it on a public forum. When the thought of turning in a lawbreaker makes you feel like that, it is bad law.

 

[Geno]

Relax!!! You saw the light. You used THR as a test plank to check your thoughts. Better here than in the Administration office, right?

So, forget it. Do your studies. By the way...I doubt it's law, policy only. See my last comment.

Doc2005

 

[eric.cartman]

I'll take it a step further...
Year 2010, Queen Hillary outlaws ALL guns. You turn yours in. He doesn't. You find out. Would you turn the guy in?

I know, I know, it's a stretch. Think of it as civil disobedience.
Have you ever walked into a prohibited place (bar, post office, etc, nothing harmful like jail) with a gun? How would you feel if your buddy turned you in?



EDIT: I'll add this: ban on CCW at campuses is immoral !

 

[hso]

He's seen the error in his thinking and has said so.

To keep folks who don't bother to read all the way through before posting jumping on him with both feet I'm going to close this one.