As some of you know I recently bought a Taurus 941 - 4" in .22 mag. I'm finding the best I can hold with it on the bench is like 8" at 25 yds. Is this the best I should expect out of this gun or does it sound like maybe it's defective? The rounds are all over the place. No discernible grouping. I've tried a few different types of ammo in it too. It all seems to shoot just about the same. Any thoughts?
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That is disappointing. I was looking at one of these in the shop the other day. I really liked it too.
That's not even mediocre, that's downright pathetic. Sounds like there's a problem there somewhere.
Sorry, been away...
Yup pathetic is my thought as well. I was shooting that SA too. Overall I'd give the thing a poor rating in almost every aspect. Finish work is lousy, trigger sucks, the action just feels weird and likes to lock up even when you're just trying to pull the hammer back for SA. I do not like it. Geez, I hate saying that about a gun but there it is.
Caught by the old "you get what you pay for" corollary of Murphy's Law. No way I could afford the S&W right now and I don't want a single action either. Sigh...
Yup pathetic is my thought as well. I was shooting that SA too. Overall I'd give the thing a poor rating in almost every aspect. Finish work is lousy, trigger sucks, the action just feels weird and likes to lock up even when you're just trying to pull the hammer back for SA. I do not like it. Geez, I hate saying that about a gun but there it is.
Caught by the old "you get what you pay for" corollary of Murphy's Law. No way I could afford the S&W right now and I don't want a single action either. Sigh...
8 at 25 yards is inexcusable. There is something wrong with the gun. No revolver no matter how cheap should shoot that badly. A 4 inch grouping at 25 yards is terrible accuracy from a revolver. I've never seen one that did as bad as 8. Send it in for some work. Taurus can make a decent gun. Guess you got a lemon.
What ammo were you shooting?
I've shot some pretty terrible .22 magnum ammo before that made an otherwise extremely accurate Single Six look like a smooth bore.
Also, from what I recall it didn't do much better in a Marlin .22 mag rifle.
I've shot some pretty terrible .22 magnum ammo before that made an otherwise extremely accurate Single Six look like a smooth bore.
Also, from what I recall it didn't do much better in a Marlin .22 mag rifle.
Hmmm, two kinds of Winchester (one JHP and one FMJ) and then some CCI JSPs.
Yup, I felt like I was shooting a smoothbore because there simply no rhyme or reason to where they ended up on the paper. Nothing resembling a group at all anywhere, just all over the place. No keyholing that I could see
Guess I'll look into sending it to Taurus.
Being my first one (Taurus) I wasn't sure if they ALL shot like that or just mine. I sure would like a bit more out of it.
Yup, I felt like I was shooting a smoothbore because there simply no rhyme or reason to where they ended up on the paper. Nothing resembling a group at all anywhere, just all over the place. No keyholing that I could see
Guess I'll look into sending it to Taurus.
Being my first one (Taurus) I wasn't sure if they ALL shot like that or just mine. I sure would like a bit more out of it.
280', read this article. It mentions a 6.5 inch 25 yard group with a 9.5" Buntline Single Six.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_154_25/ai_78870847/pg_1
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_154_25/ai_78870847/pg_1
I don't know, this has me wondering if .22 magnum is just not a good revolver cartridge. I've never seen any, rifle or pistol that were particularly accurate. Maybe there's too much of a disparity of loads and the rifling is wrong for some of them. Kind of like shooting 55gr. .223 out of the wrong barrel twist?
My 5 1/2" Single Six shoots .22 Mags more accurately than .22 LR's, but I have to stay away from the 30 gr Max V Hyper speed stuff. It likes the original Winchester load of a 40 gr jacketed bullet with the lead exposed at the tip. The grey box Win Super X 40 gr JHP's.
My 941 will shoot most ammo pretty accurately. It gets real dirty real quick. I drilled the top strap for a mount and it's topped with a JPoint red dot.
Generally I'm aware that higher velocity, at least in .22 lr, means less accuracy. Possibly this is the case here. They're so zippy the slightest irregularity in the round may make them want to head off in the wrong direction. I'd say the 6.5" mentioned in the article (good link thanks!) is fairly close to what I was seeing. I am tempted to try it with a red dot scope to confirm it's the gun and not just that I can't see the iron sights well enough. Front sight was clear, all seemed lined up well enough and I don't feel like I was jerking it. All shots felt like they broke well but the end result looked like a shotgun pattern. Won't be doing much squirrel hunting with it like that. Or, I can do all the hunting I want but won't be gettin' much...
(I have no desire to scope it for hunting)
(I have no desire to scope it for hunting)
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The .22 WMR can be a very accurate cartridge. My Single-Six shoots the .22 WMR more accurately than the .22 LR. The group shown below was shot from a Savage 24 (.22 WMR over 20 gauge combo long gun), shown here just to demonstrate that the .22 WMR can be very accurate. So I suspect you've got a problem with your 941, especially since it sounds like accuracy isn't the only issue.
I also have a 941, and I've not tried shooting it for groups at 25 yards. But I can shoot two-inch groups at 10 yards unsupported if I take my time and shoot single action. But when I bought the 941 I was aware that they had somewhat of a spotty reputation. Evidence thus far, though, is that I got one of the good ones.
I also have a 941, and I've not tried shooting it for groups at 25 yards. But I can shoot two-inch groups at 10 yards unsupported if I take my time and shoot single action. But when I bought the 941 I was aware that they had somewhat of a spotty reputation. Evidence thus far, though, is that I got one of the good ones.
Well that certainly nips the high v / low accuracy theory in the bud. Nice group! Funny, I have the same Savage but in .22LR / .410, inherited it. Sweet little gun.
To say the 22mag isn't an accurate round is simply posh if you were to ask me. I have never measured any groups shooting 22mag out of my POS FIE wheelie, but I can assure you they are much better than 8" at 25yards. My brother-in-law's Single Six is minute of gopher at 25yds easily. I know of guys that shoot old Mossberg Chucksters that can stack 'em all day long. It sounds to me like you have gun issues. Try several different types of ammo maybe your gun is simply particular as to which it likes to shoot mo betta. I am wanting to try the new Hornady 22mag as it's smaller sibling in the 17hmr is quite impressive.
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I just got a LNIB Taurus 941 2" and the previous owner said that it only shot CCI 40 grain JHP ammo well. CCI part number 0024. It seems that with any firearm you need to find the best ammo for it. The twist, 1 in 15" is the same in all 941 models and this twist rate would suggest using a long/heavy bullet for best performance.
When I finally compared my old friend, a Savage 93FVSS in .22 WMR with CCI MaxiMags, to a CZ 452 in .22LR with cheapies for ammo, I learned how accurate a .22 could be at 100yd. Tired of the $4.99/50 price for ammo, I sold the Savage - and now have three CZs in .22LR. In the interim, I bought a closeout-priced 'anniversary' Single Six - pretty, but inaccurate with WMRs or LRs - or so I thought (3-4" groups at 25yd - low and left). Someone else enjoys that pretty revolver now.
Skip ahead... it was Friday the Thirteenth - I was in the gun store - with ~$350. I wanted a 617 - but not the $619 price. The Tauri rimfire were $299-$329. I recalled a friend's good luck with a 4" .45ACP Tracker - and how it would load/fire .45 Auto Rims - not because it should - it just had that much slop in assembly. The same fellow bought a new 4" 7-shot 66 - I resprung it for him - fairly decent trigger. I haven't seen it at the range in a year or so. I went to the 'used' case. Oops.
They had a 4" 64-8 (Current SS version of the original M&P model 10.) - a security concern's unused trade-ins - $327 with s/t - fantastic! I am much happier. What a LNIB deal - and what a shooter! No doubt, my homebrew .38s are cheaper to make than any .22 WMR is to buy these days. It doesn't have the supersonic 'crack' the .22 WMR makes - but what a fun plinker. Not that I appreciate the poor luck of others, but there is a reason you don't see the 'regular' shooters at the range with a Taurus - unless it's an 85 in the car. I am sorry for your poor results - but elated that you, and others, have related same here. Thanks again - and better luck in the future.
Stainz
Skip ahead... it was Friday the Thirteenth - I was in the gun store - with ~$350. I wanted a 617 - but not the $619 price. The Tauri rimfire were $299-$329. I recalled a friend's good luck with a 4" .45ACP Tracker - and how it would load/fire .45 Auto Rims - not because it should - it just had that much slop in assembly. The same fellow bought a new 4" 7-shot 66 - I resprung it for him - fairly decent trigger. I haven't seen it at the range in a year or so. I went to the 'used' case. Oops.
They had a 4" 64-8 (Current SS version of the original M&P model 10.) - a security concern's unused trade-ins - $327 with s/t - fantastic! I am much happier. What a LNIB deal - and what a shooter! No doubt, my homebrew .38s are cheaper to make than any .22 WMR is to buy these days. It doesn't have the supersonic 'crack' the .22 WMR makes - but what a fun plinker. Not that I appreciate the poor luck of others, but there is a reason you don't see the 'regular' shooters at the range with a Taurus - unless it's an 85 in the car. I am sorry for your poor results - but elated that you, and others, have related same here. Thanks again - and better luck in the future.
Stainz
Many LEO's in the Seattle area are using these little snubbies as a backup gun and I got this for $300 as a birthday present for my daughter.
I was going to say I remember some Minimags doing quite well in the same revolver now that I thought about it again. Must have just been bad ammo.
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