Thunder Chief said:
Josh I'd be interested to hear more about those Finnish triggers. How do they work and what are the advantages?
Hello,
There are two pivot points for the trigger on the sear instead of one.
The one I used to sell before I figured out I didn't have the insurance to do so (damned litigious society!) had single rollers, but I was working on a dual-roller that was an improved Finn trigger.
I have one of those prototypes in my favorite Mosin and it feels much BETTER than a Mauser or M88!
What I was selling:
The page is still up, awaiting a time when I can find exactly what is required of me, insurance-wise:
http://www.smith-sights.com/finn-pinned-roller-triggers.php
Two-stage prototype:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWDitIiapo
Original Finn M28/76 trigger:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=290437990#PIC
Notice how alike this is to a Mauser trigger. It feels very nice.
The M39 trigger that I had improved upon:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=289384276#PIC
The difference between the Finnish version and mine is that mine uses roller bearings instead of static pins. Part of the trigger is left in place to serve as a bearing race, said race being highly polished.
To be fair, some of the Finnish models
do roll, but whether that's accident or design, I do not know.
Pins are about 2mm give or take a bit.
In my humble opinion, any of these triggers feel much nicer than Huber and even, in the second stage, much better than Timney.
It does require knowledge of the inner workings and some tweaking to get the second stage feeling like better than a Timney, but once achieved it's worth it. Right now my trigger is sitting at about 3lbs first stage and 4lbs second stage (forgot to measure it!) but I have had it down to about a 1lb first stage and 2lbs second stage.
The second stage is very crisp in both these instances, and I like the slightly heavier pull because my Mosin is a working gun, not a safe or target queen. The fact that it will now do sub-MOA groups (I'm only capable of about 2.5MOA groups consistently with iron sights off a front rest, no rear rest) is what I require as I do take coyote with it out here to about 200 yards.
The Finns did a lot of good stuff! Google Finn Mosin modifications. I also have a lot of them listed on my site should you want to visit that.
I am somewhat of an experimental archaeologist, having grown up hunting with homemade bows (not great, but they worked for squirrel!), slings (NOT slingshots, think "David and Goliath", got pretty good making and shooting those!) and spears and atlatls (can't use 'em on deer in Indiana, so these pretty much stuck to paper. I tried a rabbit once but it just destroyed the critter!)
I've moved this experimental archaeology thing of mine to guns now, and I publish what I do. The sights are a way to support myself while providing this information for people to use; and, while I like doing the sights and think I do them well, I am really just a po'boy who likes to tinker and teach (sub license for the schools, even!)
Regards,