Mosin nagant group size

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What's the best group size you've been able to get out of your Mosin Nagant when you do your part? Let's say 3 shot group, either inside of a __ inch circle or a center to center measurement. Scope or open sights ? Military ball or reloaded ammo? No need to post a target.

Note: I do know some of these will shoot quite well. So if you are getting
tight groups, please post it and you will not be ridiculed, by me, at least.
 
Before mine crapped out and started loobing bullets sideways at 15 feet, it shot minute of man all day at 75 yards.
 
The better ones I've shot are about 2-3 inches at 100 yards. Most of them will shoot about twice that size. I blame a lot of the inaccuracy on the surplus ammo and a wide front site.
 
I have actually had 5 shot groups at 50 yards with a Mosin 44 that could be covered with a silver dollar. This was with the light ball military ammo & the factory irons from a bench. For me that was good shooting!
 
I tried mine at 15 yards once and decided in the future to not shoot at small stuff. I haven't tried
groups at 100 yards. Could the groups get better at 100 yards ? (LOL) I have only shot $.25 surplus
ammo so I don't know if it's the gun or ammo or both causing the poor accuracy
 
this past summer, I Shot mine at the range, from a sand bag. Bulgarian surplus... several attempts typically right at 4". I think I had one group of 5 at 3" but the other 4-5 groups were closer to 4".

I have not shot the heavier surplus rounds through it. It may shoot better with those?
 
I have owned a half dozen M/N's over the years and most of them were horribly inaccurate and thus no longer in my gun cabinet. I have one M/N left (1932 hex receiver) that is a legitimate 2-3MOA shooter with a barrel mounted peep sight and hungarian 149gr Light ball. Hungarian light ball is loaded with a spitzer boat tail and is as accurate as Privi/Wolf Gold for 1/2 the price.
 
Try some Prvi-Partizan or Wolf Gold FMJ or SP ammo to give your Mosin some decent ammo to see what it can do for group. It will give you some good brass to reload too. And no worry about corrosive primers.

Here's a link to some good information on Mosin surplus ammo.

http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo.htm

For information that will keep you busy for hours, it's hard to beat the base site.

http://www.7.62x54r.net/



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At 100yds 5 shot groups with my counterbored barrel and wolf 148gr fmj and the open sights on a bipod I get 4" groups about 75% of the time. Worst I have got is 5" set up like that.
With brown bear 203gr SPBT I get about the same.
 
I own and shoot a 1917 dated, M91 Dragoon Mosin Nagant rifle. At 50 yards firing light ball ( steel core ) the group is more like a pattern. I then switched to Bulgarian 174 gr. heavy ball to see if it would do better. It did. Actually started to group into 3" at the same 50 yards. The only problem is the recoil let my shoulder know that I now had, "the tiger by the tail" after around 40 rounds.
 
The worst groups 5-6" and the best 2-3" out of mine. I've got 5 of them and they all need tuning to shoot. The stocks need bedding, the triggers are lousy, the sights crude, the surplus ammo inconsistant...what else could you expect. They can hit a 8" plate all day at 100yrds.
 
Shot mine today, 1942 Tula 91/30...this is a 5"x5" mild steel plate, 1/4" thick, 147gr Russian surplus ammo @ 50 yards, this is my second time shooting this rifle. Iron sights BTW.

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My 41 Sako M-39 will do 2 inch groups all the do da day.
Czeck light ball is the consistant ammo I use every shot.

Most all of my Mosins will do 3-4 inch groups with good ammo.
 
I don't like being disorganized.

One grouping I shot at 100 yards with my brother-in-law's rifle was pretty insane; around 2 inches if I remember correctly. I actually had the saved target out not to long ago, but I'm going to have to hunt around for it to take pictures. It was with surplus light ball ammunition.

Some of my other friends' rifles haven't been so fortunate, and I would call them at 4-6 inches. This was with surplus ammunition as well, but I don't think it was of the same make.
 
The one I have is a hex receiver with the barrel stamped 1941 is pretty much in unissued condition. When I got it I tried wolf steel cases but you just about had to beat the bolt handle to open it. I got some surplus Czech with brass cases and at about 50yd and open sights put 3 touching in a nice cloverleaf you could cover with a nickle. I haven't shot it since, it's just a collecting piece and it was given to me.
 
Very encouraging results.

Yes but he's talking

Handloads and a Finn M39.

My Mosin shoots about 3" @ 100 yd with new Wolf ammo and 4-5" with the surplus I've tried.
 
From my original post:

"Note: I do know some of these will shoot quite well. So if you are getting
tight groups, please post it and you will not be ridiculed, by me, at least. "

That was a hint for other people not to as well.
 
I'm shooting some light ball from my PSL. When I was sighting my rifle in the other day the last 4 shot group I fired for the day at 120 yds was 1 7/8. I was pretty happy.
 
I have several Finn Mosins that will shoot under 2" at 100y, from the bench, with a flavor of milsurp ammo that they like.
I don't think it's that unusual.
 
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