Mosin Nagant Shooting High?

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If they were mine I would keep the file in the drawer and do what I have done to mine which is find a straw or rigid tubing which just barely fits over the front post with some effort, adjust to desired POI and color it to suit. This method has proven to work great for me both in the plinking and deer hunting fields. Once the metal sights are filed, they stay filed for life. If you screw up the straw, you toss it over your right shoulder and start over with another one.
 
I have the Smith Sight and it is a nice product. One problem with raising the front sight is you start limiting your sight picture since it's not an open sight. What I really like about the Smith Sight is the fiber optic against the the target. By lowering the rear sight and using the Smith Sight my rifle pretty much zeros-out @ 100 & 200 yards by simply moving the rear sight 1 notch.
 
I like the idea of a hard plastic straw and just insert on the front post, and cut to accdg to how it shoots at 100 yds. Im thinking of red straw used in spray cans but i think it could be too small. Anyone knows of the perfect size to get at home depot or Lowe's or what not?
 
I m looking at two of my 91 30s. The 1933 hex and 1939 round has front posts with heights that are covering half of the front sight globe. I remember i had one wartime 1943 that has a short front sight post, only 1/3 height of the globe inside diameter . My shots were hitting way high like six inches at 100 yds as far i can remember. With the two i have right now , theyre hitting 4 inches high respectvely at 100 yds.
 
I wouldn't mess with it and shoot for groups. It is shooting just the way the mother land intended.
 
Nathan , I'm thinking what I used was a white, tubular coffee stirrer. I then colored it with the wife's bright red finger nail polish as this shade works best for where I'm at in low light while deer hunting and it provides an adequate adhesive on the bottom end so it won't move. I'm not so sure your idea of a tube from say a can of WD-40 or Break-Free wouldn't work just as well provided it was a very snug fit. You don't want it any bigger than necessary mainly so the width doesn't fill up too much room in the rear sight notch, which the one I use does not at the practical range I use it for. Hope that helps.
 
Hi Folks,

The visible portion of the front sight post should be about o.325". This is about optimum height for most Mosins. You can purchase my sights or just replace the front sight post with a nail filed to the correct height.

It was mentioned that you start running out of adjustment due to hood height. This is true and I have made, in the past, half-hoods and 3/4 hoods. While I like these, it's tough to do as I prefer to hand-make each sight so I know each is fitted correctly, and the time involved in removing part of the hood by hand is prohibitive for any sort of mass or semi-mass production.

Even if you don't go with one of my products, please feel free to stop by the website. I am sure there will be an article or two to interest you!

Regards,

Josh

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Hi Folks,

The visible portion of the front sight post should be about o.325". This is about optimum height for most Mosins. You can purchase my sights or just replace the front sight post with a nail filed to the correct height.

It was mentioned that you start running out of adjustment due to hood height. This is true and I have made, in the past, half-hoods and 3/4 hoods. While I like these, it's tough to do as I prefer to hand-make each sight so I know each is fitted correctly, and the time involved in removing part of the hood by hand is prohibitive for any sort of mass or semi-mass production.
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Have you ever considered making an open wing style sight for the Mosin? I hate Mosin sights and would use something like that in a heart beat:). I have never been a fan of the Russian sights
 
Hi Carbine,

I've considered it, but man, the sights as they are, are taking all of my time plus time I really don't have.

Limiting myself to four to six hours of sleep right now to fill orders. Lots of the work is pretty fast, but some others, like hot bluing, just takes time.

R&D comes mainly through my customers now, and if I can make it easily, I do. If there's more D than R, then it really does take time.

The half-hoods end up looking a lot like the AK half-hood, but as I said, they're not really time- or cost-effective to make on a large scale.

I wish they were! It would solve problems I've seen with some Mosins, like the out-of-adjustment-room mentioned here.

Luckily, most Mosins do not run out of effective adjustment room.

Regards,

Josh
 
Hi Carbine,

I've considered it, but man, the sights as they are, are taking all of my time plus time I really don't have.

Limiting myself to four to six hours of sleep right now to fill orders. Lots of the work is pretty fast, but some others, like hot bluing, just takes time.

R&D comes mainly through my customers now, and if I can make it easily, I do. If there's more D than R, then it really does take time.

The half-hoods end up looking a lot like the AK half-hood, but as I said, they're not really time- or cost-effective to make on a large scale.

I wish they were! It would solve problems I've seen with some Mosins, like the out-of-adjustment-room mentioned here.

Luckily, most Mosins do not run out of effective adjustment room.

Regards,

Josh
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I completely understand. I think you may have inspired me for my next. project:)
 
Your shooting at 40 yards, on a rifle with a minimum sight distance of 100 meters. That alone will make ANY rifle shoot high (bullet is still on it's way up)

Mosin's shoot high "by nature", as the troops were taught to "aim at the belt buckle" to get a chest hit.

Mosin was also "sighted" with the bayonet attached, as that is the way it was meant to be used. That will also change the point of impact -vs- the point of aim.

If you grouping is good, then the rifle is fine. What you need to do is adjust your sight picture to accommodate the way your rifle shoots ... or alter the sights so that they give you the sight picture you want. But remember, if it is "nuts on" at 40 yards, it will be off again at any other distance.
 
my 91/30 shoots right were I want it to but I use a 6 o' clock hold.

also how are you holding it? when I use the sling as a support it shoots almost 18 inches higher than planned.
 
Don't alter the sight, that's the worst possible fix IMO. If you must adjust a sigh, the easy way is to take a bit of wire insulation of the correct gauge and slip it over the front post. Then you can trim the wire insulation to what you need for shorter distances and use the real sights without permanently altering the sights on your Mosin Nagant.
 
Vern Humphrey said:
The forien legion used Moisin Nagants and the Foreign Legion used Lebels and Berthiers.
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I thought Berthiers were people convinced that the President wasn't born where he said he was. ;)

On an on-topic note, I"m going to be doing the shrink-tubing thing on one of my mosins for some shooting this weekend. I'm also hoping to load up some cast bullets or trail-boss-powered loads that match the existing sights @ 100 yards for some of my others.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. And with a mosin, there might not be much cat left. :)

Matt
 
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