Mosin-Nagant user thread

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Overall length is 48.5" indicating it is a dragoon. It may have been updated to 91/30 standards later on -- I'm not sure. It appears to have the 91/30 replacement barrel bands. The front sight is a hooded post, rather than an open blade. The rear sight is flat leaf, with increments up to 20 (x100 meters?). Rear sight seems not to have a windage adjustment.
 
I received this rifle from Classic Arms back on 24th Oct.
I cannot say enough good about my experience with these folks, a pleasure to talk with on the phone, they knew what they had in stock and what I wanted, at my request they handpicked the Tula hex with matching numbers.
I also picked up a sardine can (440rnds) of surplus 147grn Bulgarian light ball FMJBT.
Rifle/accessories were as advertised, rifle/ammo shipped FAST!
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Tula hex, 1934, all matching numbers.

Bore was dark with cosmoline, after initial cleaning it is bright, but not mirror, VG rifling & counter bored.

Bolt had a few very light spots of surface rust, no obvious pits, was very easy to clean up.

Chambers a round very nicely, no rattle, smooth and tight, does not stick.
I bought a set of coin type headspace gauges, and she is good to go.

Wood has the usual minor dings/dents/scuffs, nothing major & no cracks.
I stripped, sanded, stained and sealed it, looks awesome.

Accessories - Bayonet, ammo pouches, sling, oil can, tool pouch/tools, cleaning rod - all in grade A condition.

I'm a happy customer with my 'new to me' MN 91 30.
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Took'er to the range today!

Started at 25 yards, she shot approx 5-6" high, point of aim on a 8" round target was front sight pin on bottom of target and was hitting slightly left & high of center, in 2" group (3 shot groups).
Posted 12" round targets at 100 yards, two targets one above the other with edges touching. Point of aim was front sight pin on bottom edge of lower target, impacts were in lower half of upper target, 3-4" group.

I used a handy black coffee stirrer (that fit nicely over the FSP) to add 3/16" to the front sight pin, posted a single 12" target at 100yrds, POA was bullseye, shots were now impacting approx 2" low, trimmed a 1/16" and was then on target with 3-4" group.
Shot 80 rnds total, managed a couple 2" groups at 100 yards.

She is a keeper :D
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M1891/30

Hello friends and neighbors // Hopefully one day I can learn enough to share my info.

For now here is my $90.00 1953 Hungarian M1891/30 M189130.jpg

Only thing I can see wrong is the light spots on stock where some letters in yellow paint were removed. For $90.00 and all the numbers matching I had to give M91/30 a home.;)

Let me know if I got a reasonable price. ( of course the target will tell all)
Question: What does the number 1 in circle on stock mean?
Is there anything I should look out for problem wise?
Thanks for any additional info any of you can give me that I don't have in text with pic.

I can't wait to get some ammo and go plinking. Maybe even use it deer hunting if it proves to be a true shooter.:D
 
Mosin 91/30 1953 Hungarian: Range report

Hello friends and neighbors // That took a while, other than making sure the Mosin would shoot I did not range it until April 16.
I need to find a tighter front sight, here at 100yards I fired two corrected left and fired three from the bench shown.
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The 1953 Hungarian Mosin M91/30 will do fine with a new front sight.

I hope you are enjoying yours.
 
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I think you have a great idea starting a MN thread i have a question for some of the more experienced MN owners. I just purchased a M-44 with bayonet, when I load it to is capacity sometimes it will not pick up the shell and load, instead it shave the rim of the shell. any suggestions
 
Sliding over or actually stopping on the rim?

To add to the thread, here's the 1970 M39 I've been working with lately. Has a wartime stock. When a military puts on rifle sights that massive and that precise, you know they intend to hit something.

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dang... 30 pages of mn and i learnt a few things. no one highly modified theirs?
 
ive only cleaned mine once. patches were hardly even dirty. ive shot well over 50 rounds since then and havent clean it. i read in the past 30 so pages that the ammunition will cause corrosion? never heard of that.
 
My stock was looking really bad, so I decided to paint and cut the rotted part off. I am going to put a scope and bipod on it next. Its a great shooter.


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how do you know if the ammo is corrosive or not? and does this apply to all guns?
 
I dont know how to tell, but mostly all the surplus ammo you get in the cans from online are corrosive. It'll tell you if it is corrosive or not, most of the time. No it doesn't apply to all guns, just older ammo. But even if it is corrosive all you need to do is clean the gun with some water to neutralize the salts.
 
Pretty much all the milsurp ammo is corrosive. The commercial stuff is OK.

Clean the bore and bolt face with hot water first, then with regular cleaning products. You can also use Windex instead of hot water.
 
arsenal refurb question

As I've been looking around at these rifles, I'm seeing now and then a barrel with a smooth, shiny crown. Was it common for the arsenals to re-grind the crowns to remove defects?

I just bought my first M-N, a '28 Izzy (take THAT 7.62x54r forums!!) ex-dragoon. I'll get pics up as soon as I'm done cleaning, and cleaning, and cleaning the bore.
 
As I've been looking around at these rifles, I'm seeing now and then a barrel with a smooth, shiny crown. Was it common for the arsenals to re-grind the crowns to remove defects?

Yes--I think that's what they call "counterbored."
 
dang... 30 pages of mn and i learnt a few things. no one highly modified theirs?
most would consider my finned barrel mosin highly modified. i still need to cut the chamber, it will be in 7mm-08.
barrel, is from a madsen light machine gun. the stock has been refined a little, and the bolt knob has been installed since the pictures were taken, i also put a timney trigger in.
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all you pu owners

what bullet weight is it calibrated for ? 147 or 182? also picked up two nice hex tulas today for 99 bucks each. can't wait to clean and shoot them.
 
Yes--I think that's what they call "counterbored."
I'm not sure that's exactly right. The impression I have is that a counterbored barrel actually has the rifling bored back away from the crown, effectively creating a new crown inside the muzzle, like this (scroll down just a bit):

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinBarrel.htm

What I'm talking about looks more like a light touch-up grind on the crown itself, like the rifle in this barrel slugging article:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSlug.htm

The crown is shiny and smooth, and the lands are more or less sharp all the way to the end.
 
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