Mosin-Nagant user thread
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caribou
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Yes, I have several Mosin's, quite a collection as well Im a shooter and year round user of them, peticularly the M-39.........and I can unequivically say the M-39 is the optimum in Mosins.
offthepaper
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I have about 15 Russian MN's.
I also have 7 Finn M39 MN's
While 2 of the Ruskies shoot very well, all of the Finns Shoot very, very well. I have 2 M39's that can easily challenge my K31's with quality ammo. The stocks are better, the sights are better, and the triggers are a world away from the Ruskies. Most every Finn MN I've ever seen was an excellent shooter.
Theres an old saying..........
The Russians made the Mosins.
The Finns made them right.
alemonkey
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Yep, IMO an M39 is pretty much the equal of a K31 if both are fed quality ammo. The K31 does have a much better trigger but the M39 is heavier and I can shoot it better.
Chris-bob
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I love my M44. Shoots like a dream. IIRC, it's a Romanian...? I guess I could go open the safe and see. Does my Nagant revolver count?(yeah, I know it's not a rifle, but sure is fun)
jimmyraythomason
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thinking about putting a scope on my dime-a-dozen 91/30
however I am having a hard time finding a long eye relief scope
any suggestions? I would prefer to keep the cost under $200
or would I be better off with a red dot scope?
I would prefer not to do any permanent mods to the rifle. My only experience with scopes is a cheap one I have on my .22LR (works well and I like it) Ive never used a red dot before and dont know much about them.
I intend to use the rifle for range and (hopefully) hunting.
however I am having a hard time finding a long eye relief scope
any suggestions? I would prefer to keep the cost under $200
or would I be better off with a red dot scope?
I would prefer not to do any permanent mods to the rifle. My only experience with scopes is a cheap one I have on my .22LR (works well and I like it) Ive never used a red dot before and dont know much about them.
I intend to use the rifle for range and (hopefully) hunting.
Catshooter
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Wacked,
OpticPlanet dot com has a good line of Barska scopes. Russian, inexpensive and I like them. Mine have held up to 45-70 use fine. They certainly aren't as clear as a Leopuld, but then they don't cost a Leopuld either.
Cat
OpticPlanet dot com has a good line of Barska scopes. Russian, inexpensive and I like them. Mine have held up to 45-70 use fine. They certainly aren't as clear as a Leopuld, but then they don't cost a Leopuld either.
Cat
For accuracy testing i use a simmons pistol scope 4x32 clamped strait to the dovetail under the 91/30s rear sight. It has worked well so far. The only issues is the dovetail tapers with the barrel, i shimmed the front with a piece of cut up license plate. this setup allows changing from scope to open sights in about a min, but you do lose zero with the scope.
usnmars
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I am glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves these things. I need to start putting some rubber muzzle covers on them when they are in the safe because they are breeding like rabbits :laugh: I must admit I like the Finns the best.
Cat, have a model # for the scope?
Loon: isn't the eye relief on pistolscopes too much?
to use the rear sight to mount a scope rail, seems like you would need a eye relief greater than the 3-4" typical riflescopes offer, but the 18-20" relief of pistolscopes seems too much.
Am I missing something here?
scopes are too dang confusing
Loon: isn't the eye relief on pistolscopes too much?
to use the rear sight to mount a scope rail, seems like you would need a eye relief greater than the 3-4" typical riflescopes offer, but the 18-20" relief of pistolscopes seems too much.
Am I missing something here?
scopes are too dang confusing
Whacked your looking for about 9"-13" starting relief. thats right in the range of most lower end pistol scopes. 
You might want to get a set of millet adjustable .22 rings if you decide to go with the dovetail mount thing. They will make dealing with the taper a bit easier.
You might want to get a set of millet adjustable .22 rings if you decide to go with the dovetail mount thing. They will make dealing with the taper a bit easier.
Randomhero27
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So, i just joined this club today.
While it technically isnt my first gun purchase ever, it is my first gun purchase ever. (I currently have a pistol on layaway, which would have been my first gun purchase)
went to the local gun show and was looking for one, while, there was plenty, they al wanted way to much for them. 1 dealer had like 50 of them (at least) and had a display of $100 OTD, but those were beat and without accessories. And he only had 1 left, which was currently being purchased when i walked up. So, i looked at his rack of $140-$160 and found one i liked. i feel a paid a bit too much, but the fact that i was able to hand pick it compared to the online "hope you get a good one from the crate", and im supporting a local dealer, made me a feel a bit better with my purchase. But whats $50 extra for a rifle im gonna have for a long time?
on to the pics...
oh, and when i got home, my son and my mother had made cookies.
Unfortunatly, the $150 was over my $125 budget so i wasnt able to afford any ammo. So, no range time till i get me some.
While it technically isnt my first gun purchase ever, it is my first gun purchase ever. (I currently have a pistol on layaway, which would have been my first gun purchase)
went to the local gun show and was looking for one, while, there was plenty, they al wanted way to much for them. 1 dealer had like 50 of them (at least) and had a display of $100 OTD, but those were beat and without accessories. And he only had 1 left, which was currently being purchased when i walked up. So, i looked at his rack of $140-$160 and found one i liked. i feel a paid a bit too much, but the fact that i was able to hand pick it compared to the online "hope you get a good one from the crate", and im supporting a local dealer, made me a feel a bit better with my purchase. But whats $50 extra for a rifle im gonna have for a long time?
on to the pics...
oh, and when i got home, my son and my mother had made cookies.
Unfortunatly, the $150 was over my $125 budget so i wasnt able to afford any ammo. So, no range time till i get me some.
Random: think of it this way, you paid someone to clean the cosmoline off. plus buying online you'll have the xfer fees, shipping etc. Also, Big 5 now sells them for $120, at least in my area.
Anyways, you'll love it. I recently added a Tula hex M44 to my meager collection. Almost picked up another 91/30 the other day but there is a possibility I may be moving soon so I passed.
Anyways, you'll love it. I recently added a Tula hex M44 to my meager collection. Almost picked up another 91/30 the other day but there is a possibility I may be moving soon so I passed.
Randomhero27
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no0b questions for the first time rifle owner.
how does one open the "spam cans" of ammo?
where do you guys buy your ammo?
and does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap red-dot/mount combo?
how does one open the "spam cans" of ammo?
where do you guys buy your ammo?
and does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap red-dot/mount combo?
morcey2
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I've got three of them:
Hungarian M44
1941 Finned Izhvesk M91/30 in a pot-belly stock.
1933 Finned Tula M91/30 w/ lots of arsenal repairs and a semi-austrian stock.
On my short list of mosins to acquire are an M39, Finn M91, Real Finn M91/30, several standard M91/30 refurbs, an M38, and at least one of M27,M28,M24,M27/76. And any others I can get my hands on.
Matt
Hungarian M44
1941 Finned Izhvesk M91/30 in a pot-belly stock.
1933 Finned Tula M91/30 w/ lots of arsenal repairs and a semi-austrian stock.
On my short list of mosins to acquire are an M39, Finn M91, Real Finn M91/30, several standard M91/30 refurbs, an M38, and at least one of M27,M28,M24,M27/76. And any others I can get my hands on.
Matt
bearfoot
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Funny, I just got my first Mosin this weekend, and from the same gun show vendor that Random did!
Mine was $159, I think because the wood was a little prettier. I checked with one ammo vendor and they had 440rd tins for like $85. I only spent $20 on ammo (80rds), will probably get a tin (or a case, 2 tins) later.
Mine was $159, I think because the wood was a little prettier. I checked with one ammo vendor and they had 440rd tins for like $85. I only spent $20 on ammo (80rds), will probably get a tin (or a case, 2 tins) later.
I just bought one last weekend, then did all the research. Wish I had done it the other way around. :banghead:
Anyway, if you're looking for one of the more desireable ones in the cheap bin (around here $99-$120) bring a small flash light and, if you can get one, a 7.62 x 54R round. Generally speaking, a rifle made in the mid 1930's to early 40's with a hex reciever is considered better quality. Look for a Tula (It'll have a star with an arrow on it).
With the flashlight look down the muzzle for rifleing. If there is no rifling for an inch or so then it's counterbored. That means they basically drilled it out during refurbishment to fix a problem because some red field monkey shoved his barrel brush down the wrong end to clean it and it got slightly out of round. If it's counterbored, it's still a decent shooter. If the rifling goes to the muzzle take out your 7.62x54R round and place it into the muzzle (don't shove it in there) If it stops halfway to the casing, excellent. If it goes in about 3/4 of the way, still not bad. If it goes to the casing, dang field monkeys. Either it's been poorly cleaned or shot out. Still might shoot well, might not. Hopefully this will help you narrow it down to the best of the cheapest.
The most common ones around right now (here at least) are 1942-3 Izhevsk. All Mosins are refurbished, it will be a rare find to get an original Mosin and you will pay for it. There are no "unissued" Mosins. None. Don't let anyone tell you different. They are as cheap as they are because there are 37, 000, 000 of them out there. Hope this helps. Good luck!
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The above poster pretty much got it, I would say that most people when looking for a good shooter look at the barrel condition only. After that most people think that anything made before 1941 are the better "finished" rifles....commies just had the time. People think that Stalin knew Hitler was going to attack, what few know is that he went into shock for 5 days after the attack.
They are fun rifles, and with a simple slip on recoil pad are not bad to shoot, even for me and I have some major neck and back problems. There are prople that get into the history of them very much others use them for budget hunting rifles, deer, wild pig...the entire mosin family shoot a pretty hard hitting round for about the least ammount of money you can spend.
They are very good at putting holes where you want them...keep in mind they are still being found in modern conflicts, and they where used as snipers up to vietnam in amazing quanties when you think it is really a 100 yr old rifle.
Let us know how you do with your new rifle.
Found one great condition good rifling no counterbore.. bolt felt great excpet afyet fired its hard while its cocking, did all the cleaning no cosmaline left in it completely cleaned polished and oil have to tap it to lock and tap to unlock ejects casing perfect... 1939 with number matched
Tempest 455
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A few of my Mosins.
M44
91/30's (sold the one on the left)
M38
Custom target Mosin
M44
91/30's (sold the one on the left)
M38
Custom target Mosin
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