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I picked one up for myself for Christmas too.. it has a war time stock, not an M44 stock.

I actually found the safety somewhat easy to use...?? Not sure why... odd man out I guess.
 
As a left-handed shooter, I immediately gave up on the Mosin safety. And the Arisaka safety. A lot of these bolt back safeties were designed to be twisted in a particular way that really only works if you're right-handed. You have a beautiful M38 there. Enjoy her!
 
Folks, thank you for all the info!! Yes, it is counterbored about a half inch.
Fired 20 rds yesterday, love it, not as bad as I was told (recoil). Actually
it was an early bday gift for my 8 yr old son. He fired it as well, did really
well, he said it kicks alot, but that so far is the largest cal. he has fired so
far. Don't let me forget to mention, preaching and teaching gun safety
since they were 4 yrs old, they have fired my AK, AR, 22lr and .410.



Semper Fi!!
 
1 more thing; if you wanna tame the recoil, and if it is for an adult- go get a butler creek rubberized slip on pad SMALL SIZE!!!! It will look too tiny, and be tight as heck, but once you get it all the way on, it looks like it was made for this rifle!!! they should be about 8 bucks...
 
I am an old codger of three score and ten who shoots lefty, but using the MN safety is no problemo for me. I Just grasp the safety knob with a good left hand grip, pulling straight back while pushing rifle forward with right hand and twist said knob to the left. No muss, no fuss, and with minimal effort.
 
rangerruck, yes I got the sling. about the trigger job you mentioned. my trigger has alot of play, front to rear. whether it is cocked, uncocked, safety on, safety off. is this normal ? Also, thank you for websites!!


Semper Fi!!!
 
On the subject of dry firing, nearly all centerfire guns are fine being dry-fired. However, there are exceptions, like the CZ-52 pistol.

Mosin triggers seem to vary quite a bit in pull weight, tolerances, smoothness, etc. I wouldn't worry about it. Also, the Mosin action has a two-stage trigger, so a long, light trigger pull before the second stage with its heavier pull is normal.
 
Every Mosin I've touched has had a lot of play in the trigger. Just the way they are I guess.
 
Hey folks! something else i noticed while cleaning it after 20 rds. of russian
mil-surp, the head of the bolt was not very dirty. does this have something to do with it being a rimmed cartridge?



Semper Fi!!
 
Very important with an M38 is to not buy a large quantity of surplus ammo before you try the rounds in the gun. I bought, and still have several cases of the one that comes in the big green spam can with a twist key, and the romanian stuff that comes in blue boxes with silver tips. You will read about "sticky bolt" syndrome, but it is no mystery. This ammo is extra hot machinegun ammo and was not meant for the tighter tolerances of an infantry rifle. I later got some slightly more expensive Hungarian ammo that comes in brown boxes inside a plastic bag (like us 5.56) and it works flawlessly, whereas with the other stuff I had to literally hammer the bolt open and punch the empty shell out from the front with a rod.

And don't bother with the "stripper clips". They don't work at all.
 
yes, those triggers will deff have some play in them, but if you do the trigger job; the simplest trigger job on a rifle ever is the Mosin, you can take up a lot of that play, and get your trigger pull down pretty low.
 
And don't bother with the "stripper clips". They don't work at all.
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I hate to be the contrarian, but I have never had a problem with the stripper clips. More correctly, I have never had a problem with Russian stripper clips. There are plenty on the market that do not work worth a damn, but I have yet to find an actual Russian stripper clip that doesn't work. Provided you have good clips, it shouldn't be hard to load once you know the technique. Rather than explain the technique myself, here is a video of some dude demonstrating the proper way to load a Mosin with a stripper clip: Linky
 
Damn Timbo. That for sure doesn't work with the ones I have. Thanks for the video I am going to look for some. Who'd a thunk it that a bent piece of steel could have variations that matter that much.
 
Devil, it depends on what shipping and FFL costs are. You can pick them up for $85-$100 around here locally.
 
TimboKhan said:
I hate to be the contrarian, but I have never had a problem with the stripper clips. More correctly, I have never had a problem with Russian stripper clips.
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I had a set of steel clips that wouldn't work for anything. Tried bending them outwards until the rounds would barely stay in there - unless you were trying to put them in the rifle! Then they would just jam up and go nowhere.

Got a set of brass ones (no Russian markings, so I assume they are repro) and these work fine with the technique usually shown on YouTube.
 
It's also a good idea to practice working the safety. Once you learn how to engage it it's pretty neat and about the safest safety ever designed.
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i didn't even know mosins had a safety, where is it and how is it engaged?
 
It's the back knob on the bolt. You pull back and rotate a few degrees to your left, then ease it down onto the left side of the receiver. It physically locks the entire back part of the bolt as well as the firing pin with the full force of the mainspring.

As far as stripper clips, the best are the Tikka steel ones shaped to the cartridges. Other steel clips don't work at all. Look for the "T" in the circle and triangle. But you have to know how to use them. Load them in a wing formation in the clip, then ram them down using the top cartridge as a rammer. There's actually a simulation video game that shows this technique really well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk6URooj9W0
 
STOP! You had better get rid of that weapon and fast! If you begin to dry fire it the entire system will fail in about 300 years.

These things were made for heavy duty and lots of it.

The Russian people were not combat fighters and EVERYONE had a buried Mosin with tins of ammo. If anyone could put the Mosin through hard times it is Russia and its common people.

Mosin's work. They are robust and shoot and shoot and shoot.

Enjoy your excellent rifle and not to worry.
 
Thank you everyone for your help!! Now I am thinking of buying another.
Just like Glock, you can't own just one.

The nightmare will end, ONE TERM.



Semper FI!!
 
Thank you everyone for your help!! Now I am thinking of buying another.
Just like Glock, you can't own just one.
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But there's so many variations!
 
hey everyone, just found this site reading about mosin-nagants :)

I picked up a Mosin in a local pawn shop for $138. I knew enough to know it was a Mosin, but I had no idea what type - I took a chance and just bought it. Since have learned it is a M38. Counterbored. Not sure if correct M38 stock or not - I need to check that. The bore was dark. I cleaned it first, took it out and shot it, then cleaned it again. Used up a large pack of patches :) Bore brightened up pretty good and seems to be in good shape.

Has anyone else checked headspace on their Mosins? I bought a no-go gauge and my M38 passsed ok. I've learned I should have really used a Field gauge first - passing field gauge good for milsurp rifles. But I guess even better it passed the no-go. I have not run a go gauge on it.

anyway, what a hoot to shoot. Even with a limbsaver, I got a workout :)
 
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