Mosin question: 1930 barrel on round receiver?

[mike_charlie]

The LGS has a 91/30 with a 1930 barrel stamp on a round receiver. Is there any chance this could be something interesting? The price is high for a run of the mill Mosin at $150 but if it has some history I may pick it up.

 

[stubbicatt]

Sometimes those stampings are not really clear, are you sure it isn't 1938?

 

[ball3006]

What is the date on the receiver?

You will find it stamped on the lower side of the rear tang when you remove the receiver from the stock. During the war, alot of rifles were made up from parts and all serviceable parts from damaged rifles were thrown in the parts bin to build/repair other rifles...chris3

 

[Voodoochile]

Yes it is possible.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRef02.htm

They show a few different times where the barrel date could in fact be from 1930 on up from both the Izhevsk & Tula plants for the M91/30

 

[nathan]

The decade of the 1930s was very interesting. Those were the depression years in America and the surge of Nazism in Europe. The Japanese IMperial Army invaded Manchuria in 1932 and culminated in the rape and massacre of Nanking in 1937. This was massacre of a populated area long before the Jewish holocaust ever taking place in Nazi Germany .

Yes, 1930s were very tumultuous years in human history. The rise of Stalin in USSR and so forth.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

Possible, and quite unusual if it is in fact a 1930 barrel on a round receiver, but more likely it's a poorly-struck date. That last digit is likely to be a 6, 8, or 9. If it carries a Finnish property mark (boxed SA), though, all bets are off.

 

[caribou]

91/30designation came out whenthe Soviets accepted the Dragoon length Mosin with updated Metric sights and a front globe sight. There were a few differeing variations as rounded recivers were introduced, slowly, and the previous "Hex" were phased out. It took almost 5 years for the recivers outter dimentions to be changed in all factories makeing Mosins.
A 1930 barrel on a round reciver would be cool, so tell us, what is the Tang date onthe reciver? its under the reciver tang, the metal extention that the bolt passes through at the rear of the reciver.Youll find a year stamped under neath (gotta take off the stock) and youll find out if you have a 1930 barrel on a later made reciver, "OR" you may just have one of the first round recivers with an appropriate date, and therefor very collectable.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

The round receiver entered production at Izhevsk in 1935 and at Tula in 1936. Hex receiver production ceased at both arsenals in 1936.

If the rifle in question has a 1930 barrel on a round receiver, it's not the original barrel (or original receiver, if you prefer.) Newer barrels on older receivers are very common, but older barrels on newer receivers are quite uncommon. Sometimes you'll see a difference of a year, which can be chalked up to December-January production.

The only Mosin with a much older barrel on a round receiver which I can remember seeing had been done at a Finnish arsenal; it had a 1914 Izhevsk barrel on a round receiver. I cannot now recall when or where the receiver was produced. The Finns also built a handful of Mosins (of various models) on round receivers, but most of their production was on hex receivers, as they had those in abundance but had comparatively few round receivers on hand.

 

[bainter1212]

+1 on the poorly struck number. I literally spent years thinking my favorite Tula 91/30 was a 1938, until a friend with somewhat sharper eyes pointed out that in fact it was a '39. Further inspection proved that it is in fact a '39. At first glance it still looks a heck of a lot like an 8 to me.
I also have an old cut down sporter, it's a Westinghouse made in 1915. Takes three minutes of staring to make out the year though.

 

[mike_charlie]

Meh, I'll drop back by there on Thursday and see if they still have it. I may offer $125 if it's still there. I can't see dropping $150 on a soviet mosin unless I'm sure it's something special... and even if it is, it's still just a soviet mosin to me.

 

[DPris]

It wouldn't be anything collectible, if that's what you're going for.
So many mixmasters done as part of regular wartime rebuilds & postwar refurbs, there are all sorts of combinations floating around.
Denis