Mossberg Patriot Synthetic - Vortex Scoped Combos - Check the Optic Mounting System

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Garandimal said:
The Mossberg Synthetics seem to have trouble w/ the magnum cartridges.
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Full disclosure. Mine cracked between hunts when I was going back out into the woods. I was torquing the screw with a 1/4 inch stahlwille to 24 in/lb I think (Whatever they called for) and the stock was cold. It didn't break during use. But I wasn't using stupid levels of torque like some do either. Lol.

I emailed them after I got into the woods and they shipped the part before I got out of the woods.
 
The old BDL resin finish, Dupont RKW.
Memory, or rumor ? Bowling pin finish.

I have stripped a couple of Remington stocks. Came out great. Havent done one for years. PITA
 
Rems cheap plastic stocks are glass filled polyester ....think called Rynite

Or they were. The checkered ones, like the look and feel of the material. Some plastics I dont like as well.
 
Hookeye said:
The old BDL resin finish, Dupont RKW.
Memory, or rumor ? Bowling pin finish....
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I can believe that. It's really somethin'.


Hookeye said:
...I have stripped a couple of Remington stocks. Came out great. Havent done one for years. PITA
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When I chopped the butt of the rifle for the recoil pad, and got a look at the cross-section...?

My desire to refinish said, "Oh, screw that...!" and jumped out the window.

Green Scotch-brite and done.

:D




GR
 
crestoncowboy said:
You think the store mounts them or mossberg? I'm not sure really. They went to the back and mine came out in its box, they opened it and the scope was mounted. Maybe they had already done it. I really don't know
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They're done at the factory. Mounted and "boresighted"....
I've found many combo rifles with loose mounting hardware. Even non combo rifles with factory installed bases found loose.

Now I torque check everything.
 
I also have the Patriot "Night Train" model 0.308 WIN. I installed a Leupold Rifleman 3x9x50 scope. With Hornady 178 GR. ELD-X's, over 43-1 GR. RL-15, 0.5" groups at 100 yards. I'm a Happy Camper.

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I would like to make a cnc copy of the magazine insert out of Aluminum with thicker rear bedding area to inhibit flex or breakage.
Then if a third party offered a magazine.
We throw around the term "mattel" when referring to some actually high quality glass reinforced polymers, but these mags are real Mattel. Straight toy plastic glued together. They work but so does the Tonka truck on ebay.
 
mshootnit said:
I would like to make a cnc copy of the magazine insert out of Aluminum with thicker rear bedding area to inhibit flex or breakage.
Then if a third party offered a magazine.
We throw around the term "mattel" when referring to some actually high quality glass reinforced polymers, but these mags are real Mattel. Straight toy plastic glued together. They work but so does the Tonka truck on ebay.
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When discussin' a $400, 7.5 lb., scoped std. length bolt-action rifle...?

Form follows function.

And, as you pointed out, they work.

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... flawlessly.




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Garandimal said:
When discussin' a $400, 7.5 lb., scoped std. length bolt-action rifle...?

Form follows function.

And, as you pointed out, they work.


... flawlessly.




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Yeah..... so do plastic spoons. What is in your silverware drawer though?
Can you see what I am getting at? If not, no problem.
It is the first real (not watergun or nerf gun) magazine I have seen made that cheaply.
It inspired no confidence that it would withstand any accident or misuse beyond which you would subject your son's nerf gun to. But yes they do work
 
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mshootnit said:
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Yeah..... so do plastic spoons. What is in your silverware drawer though?
Can you see what I am getting at? If not, no problem.
It is the first real (not watergun or nerf gun) magazine I have seen made that cheaply.
It inspired no confidence that it would withstand any accident or misuse beyond which you would subject your son's nerf gun to. But yes they do work
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"Silverware" has a purpose - it's sterile, and heavy.
Plastic spoons have a purpose - they're disposable.

Patriot Magazines - are neither.

Suggest you break one, or, at least find one that doesn't work flawlessly - like the myriad AR mags - and then complain.

Or, will adding weight, expense, and potential malfunction somehow make it a better rifle?


P.S. The F4U Corsair - was arguably the greatest fighter plane of WWII.

...It didn't have a floor in the cockpit.

:D




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these mags are real Mattel. Straight toy plastic glued together.
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This description and the photos are reminiscent of the first time I encountered my Tikka magazine. However, the polymer/plastic does have a function. It is light weight and has a lubricity. The first time I stripped a round out of the magazine running the bolt in my Tikka .270, I had to check the chamber to be sure there was a round in it. I have had Tikkas since 2007 and have yet to have a magazine break, crack, or fail to feed. It's my guess the Mossberg magazines will probably serve just as well.
 
Poper said:
This description and the photos are reminiscent of the first time I encountered my Tikka magazine. However, the polymer/plastic does have a function. It is light weight and has a lubricity. The first time I stripped a round out of the magazine running the bolt in my Tikka .270, I had to check the chamber to be sure there was a round in it. I have had Tikkas since 2007 and have yet to have a magazine break, crack, or fail to feed. It's my guess the Mossberg magazines will probably serve just as well.
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Even the Tikka mag is a step up from the Mossberg mag.
 
Garandimal said:
"Silverware" has a purpose - it's sterile, and heavy.
Plastic spoons have a purpose - they're disposable.

Patriot Magazines - are neither.

Suggest you break one, or, at least find one that doesn't work flawlessly - like the myriad AR mags - and then complain.

Or, will adding weight, expense, and potential malfunction somehow make it a better rifle?


P.S. The F4U Corsair - was arguably the greatest fighter plane of WWII.

...It didn't have a floor in the cockpit.

:D




GR
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Do me a favor, since I do not have access to an F4UCorsair... Go to walmart or to your grandsons toybox and get out the nerf gun. Next get your Mossberg magazine. Compare how they are both honestly made of the same exact polymer , and how the two halves are glued together in the exact same manner, probably with the same exact adhesive. Then come on here and tell me if I am wrong.

Do you think your centerfire rifle magazines should be built to the exact same specs in terms of materials and construction as a Nerf gun on the toy rack?

I guess you know where I stand on that.

I had no problem with my Compass or Ruger American mags. They are ridged, reinforced better, but the Mossberg mag is just plain smooth Nerf plastic. No reinforcing ribs. No glass fill. Not zytel.
When I set out on a hunt, I do not go with that equipment.
And when you sit down for a holiday meal, you do not break out the plastic spoon.
 
mshootnit said:
...but these mags are real Mattel. Straight toy plastic glued together.
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mshootnit said:
Even the Tikka mag is a step up from the Mossberg mag.
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What you are seein' is the mold seam of a solid casting, not two halves glued together.

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You can tell by the casting sprue in the center, and that the "seam" doesn't propagate up into the top concave radius.

They are also visible, on occasion, on GLOCK frames as well.

... which aren't glued together, either.


So, you apparently hate a solid plastic part that is light weight, has not broken, or malfunctioned in any way, and most likely outperforms steel mags in both operation and maintenance.

Good for you.

:D




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Boattale said:
With blue loc-tite and a day's wait to start shooting for accuracy/scope adjustment.
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I just grease the threads and the screw head contact faces, and generally line the base, and the rings w/ 150 deg. arcs top and bottom, with 3M Vinyl electrical tape.

Torques tight and holds, and the bases and tube act like they were painted on, yet pop right off when the screws are loosened.




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mshootnit said:
...Do you think your centerfire rifle magazines should be built to the exact same specs in terms of materials and construction as a Nerf gun on the toy rack?

I guess you know where I stand on that.
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Hey, kids are hard on stuff.

:D

And until one breaks or malfunctions?

I'm Extremely pleased w/ Mossberg's Sub-$400, Sub-MOA, Patriot Synthetic/Vortex Scoped 7.5 lb. hunting rifles.

Wish I'd bought a woody in .30-06... and still may.




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Captcurt said:
My biggest gripe was the sloppy bolt. I ordered a walnut stocked model that had a decent piece of wood and had an excellent finish. I was afraid the the bolt would rub the comb of the stock. Their wood stocked guns are a steal for the money if you don't mind a sloppy bolt. Bergara could take a lesson on finishing stocks from Mossberg.
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My RUGER African bolts are no low tolerance affairs, either.

Smooth feeding, no binding, and tight lock ups.

... but they do flop around when you cycle'em.

Reminds me of the Springfield M03-A3.


The ole Remington M700, and especially the new FN/Winchester M70?

... are machine parts.

Like greased rails.




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Garandimal said:
Hey, kids are hard on stuff.

:D

And until one breaks or malfunctions?

I'm Extremely pleased w/ Mossberg's Sub-$400, Sub-MOA, Patriot Synthetic/Vortex Scoped hunting rifles.

Wish I'd bought a woody in .30-06... and still may.




GR
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the rear of the action in those rifles is also not properly supported. It sits on split piece of plastic which is no match for the force which the rear screw can exert. So if you tighten the rear screw much past 30 in lbs you very well will break your insert. IIRC.

It will work if you keep the rear torque light. I dont mean to bash the barreled action though which hits way above its weight. And I am glad you like yours.
 
mshootnit said:
the rear of the action in those rifles is also not properly supported. It sits on split piece of plastic which is no match for the force which the rear screw can exert. So if you tighten the rear screw much past 30 in lbs you very well will break your insert. IIRC.

It will work if you keep the rear torque light. I dont mean to bash the barreled action though which hits way above its weight. And I am glad you like yours.
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I just like stuff that works.

Inexpensive is a plus.

I like nice thing, too.

...just not for PBJ fingered kids.

:D

Really, would have been happy w/ 2.5 MOA.




GR
 
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