Mossberg Patriot Synthetic - Vortex Scoped Combos - Check the Optic Mounting System

[Garandimal]

Mossberg Patriot Synthetic - Vortex Scoped Combos:​

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So I got my boys a coupla these < $400 beauties in .270 WCF for Christmas past, when they were still small.

They are growin' into them.

Took one out a coupla Seasons ago and it shot great.

Took the other one out of storage today... and it shot like ass.

Three different 150 gr. factory loads were tried - you would have thought it was for Sporting Clays.

So I dismounted the Scope/Rings from the Base with a Quarter... that were so tight I almost couldn't get'em loose.

Then checked the Base mounting screws:
1 - snug.
2 - finger tight.
1 - rattly loose.

So they got torqued.

Then checked the Ring Cap screws:
1- snug.
1 - finger tight.
2 - rattly loose.

So they got torqued as well.

Remounted the scope, torqued the screws w/ the Quarter, and loaded up w/ 150 gr. PPU/SP.

... shot a bug-hole at 25 yards.

Adjusted the scope to correct for the offset, and moved to 100 yards.

Same ammo, the group opened up to ~ 3/4", center, about 3" high.

Took off 4-clicks of Elevation, moved to 200 yards.

... < 2" group dead center.

This prone from a mat, no sling, just a padded ammo can rest under the back of the fore-hand.

...and my son behind the rifle.




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[OldTech]

I purchased one this year in .243 Winchester for my recoil sensitive son to use. His shot about 3/4 " at 100 yards using 100 grain Core-Lokt on his
first range trip with it. Great accuracy for the price and It was also a great confidence builder for my son!! Glad you got yours dialed in!

 

[MachIVshooter]

They're solid rifles. Fit & finish are where the cost cutting clearly happened, as they shoot well in my experience.

I bought one in .300 win mag so I could get decibel readings for my cans with that cartridge because it's a common performance metric. I'll be danged if the thing didn't turn out to be a sub MOA rifle with (relatively) cheap factory fodder.

 

[Garandimal]

I purchased one this year in .243 Winchester for my recoil sensitive son to use. His shot about 3/4 " at 100 yards using 100 grain Core-Lokt on his
first range trip with it. Great accuracy for the price and It was also a great confidence builder for my son!! Glad you got yours dialed in!

The grin... was priceless.


P.S. Good move w/ the .243 WCF.

Bein' afraid of the rifle, and the resultant poor marksmanship, can be a lifetime affliction if not remedied.

Good marksmanship and good bullets fill freezers, not caliber.




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[Garandimal]

They're solid rifles. Fit & finish are where the cost cutting clearly happened, as they shoot well in my experience.

I bought one in .300 win mag so I could get decibel readings for my cans with that cartridge because it's a common performance metric. I'll be danged if the thing didn't turn out to be a sub MOA rifle with (relatively) cheap factory fodder.

And the Synthetics are flat beaters, too.

Along w/ the recessed crown.

Figure the boys will re-stock'em down the road... except that they are also so light.

Just amazing that they shoot this good for the price/weight point.

The "cheap" recoil pads even work great... which is a big deal for such a light weight rifle in std. length cartridges.




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[Garandimal]

Checked the other one on a lark.

Needed a little torquin' as well.

NTS.

Other than that?

< $400 wonders.




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[Captcurt]

You need to check scope mounts on all brands. Had the same thing with a Remmy 700. I had a Patriot in 308 that shot as well as my 700
HB Tactical. 1/2' groups at 100 yards with a couple measuring 3/8". Not a 308 fan but with results like that I could be.

 

[Garandimal]

You need to check scope mounts on all brands. Had the same thing with a Remmy 700. I had a Patriot in 308 that shot as well as my 700
HB Tactical. 1/2' groups at 100 yards with a couple measuring 3/8". Not a 308 fan but with results like that I could be.

Hear hot/cold stories... but only good ones from the folks that actually have and shoot them.

So figure snobbery has a play in it.

My only issue w/'em is that the bolt handle doesn't have a hold-down detent.

That said, the actions are slicker'n a Louisiana swamp log.




These were the first rifles I ever purchased scoped.

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[dh1633pm]

I have an MVP. Shoots well.

 

[Captcurt]

My only issue w/'em is that the bolt handle doesn't have a hold-down detent.




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My biggest gripe was the sloppy bolt. I ordered a walnut stocked model that had a decent piece of wood and had an excellent finish. I was afraid the the bolt would rub the comb of the stock. Their wood stocked guns are a steal for the money if you don't mind a sloppy bolt. Bergara could take a lesson on finishing stocks from Mossberg.

 

[crestoncowboy]

but only good ones from the folks that actually have and shoot them.

So figure snobbery has a play in it.

My 300 wm shoots pretty bad. Well documented on here too. I've checked and torqued. Got my handloads down to a serviceable group and ive killed a lot of deer with it. For the weight and price its my go to hunting gun if I know my shots will be under 400 or so. Still the least accurate 300 mag I've ever owned. I could probably get it down with more handloading but my RL-22 load is sufficient. No need to burn out the barrel chasing groups smaller than needed for my intended purpose. I'm actually pleased with the cheap vortex scope . The 22 inch barrel is pretty handy too but short for a 300

My stock cracked in subzero Temps and i emailed mossberg while waiting for deer to walk out..they shipped me another one while I was still hunting that day. And a freebie magazine. Great folks to deal with. Highly recommended

My only issue w/'em is that the bolt handle doesn't have a hold-down detent.

I've never had a bolt fall open on any other riflle but yeah, ive actually had that happen with my 300 mag patriot more than once

 

[Hookeye]

I dont trust any base or ring that was not mounted by me.

 

[mshootnit]

I had a 25-06 Mossberg patriot. Pretty good shooter. I did not like the stock or bedding situation. Put on a timney trigger. In the end sold it. But it was decent.
And this little episode says more about me than it does about the rifle.

 

[Skylerbone]

I spotted a group on clearance one day, walnut stocks setting them apart from the sea of synthetic. Unfortunately several had nasty handling marks and a few others a substance consistent with glue around the butt pads. Too bad as the price was right and crestoncowboy’s above report is the first ho hum about their accuracy.

I’m not the biggest fan of pre-mounted scopes but a Vortex on a hunting rifle is a fair trade up from what most manufacturers slap on a combo. Thanks for the heads up, and you did well indeed. Are your sons of age yet for deer/elk or working toward?

 

[JeeperCreeper]

I won one in a raffle, and planned on selling it. Felt cheap, didn't like it at first.

Then I shot it. Freaking laser beams.

I love mine now

 

[DocRock]

I've got the Cerakote/plastic in 375 Ruger. Weighed less than 6lbs . I bedded the forend with lead shot infused Accriglass and added some to the stock. Big chunky Bushnell scope got me up to just under 9lbs which tames the recoil enough.

The stocks are nasty plastic, but not bendy. The mags feel like something Mattel rejected but seat smooth as butter. The silverish Cerakote on mine actually looks pretty good. I am sorely tempted to get one of the Walnut and blued steel Reveres. I don't own anything in 6mm.....

 

[WestKentucky]

The patriot is the budget gun I look towards when I consider buying a centerfire. I have heard so many good stories about them that it doesn’t make sense to not own one. Maybe next year. I’m pretty well done with gun purchases for a while. I may send off a form 1 to SBR my contender and use it as a holstered pocket rifle.

 

[crestoncowboy]

walnut stocks setting them apart from the sea of synthetic.

When I bought mine it was around 300 for the combo. It's synthetic but I do really like the walnut version. The three i have shot were all synthetic.

As far as the vortex mine has been great. The finish has been chipped a few times. Zero has been correct every year. Last year I face planted when stepping over a log walking out of the woods, rifle slung, and I got my foot hung in some old woven wire fence that was hidden by the snow. The scope has a dent but the zero is still correct. I also broke a scope cap and ejected my round when I fell. Was a pretty good hit really. The reticle is bit busier than I like but im impressed by the scope. It actually caused me to buy a couple higher end vortex.

 

[dh1633pm]

I have the MVP as I stated above. My synthetic stock is pretty sturdy. I replaced the bottom plastic with metal just because it is a preference. It is not like my TC Compass where the foreend is like a limp fish. Is the Patriot like this? Or sturdy like the MVP?

And like Hookeye stated above, I double check anything not mounted by myself. Just good business. I do the same with my work stuff. When I work on a new firewall that the customer already tried to configure it goes back to zero. Good advice from the OP and Hookeye.

 

[crestoncowboy]

It is not like my TC Compass where the foreend is like a limp fish. Is the Patriot like this? Or sturdy like the MVP?

Nope not limp fish at all. I have a savage 12fv that fits that category. Great rifle though. The mossberg is more stiff feeling than those. Think happy meal toy plastic as opposed to pliable polymer. Its stiff and light though. Mine actually cracked at the magwell trigger housing screw. So they sent me that piece. Excellent and fast customer service. Very friendly too. I'm sure I had a thread on it when it happened. I like to plug the companies who are above average like that.

Of all the guns I've sent back or dealt with for people thats the only time I've ever gotten a freebie (a free magazine). I hear about it occasionally but never had gotten one that I recall

 

[jmorris]

I dont trust any base or ring that was not mounted by me.

I do but not some kid throwing combos together in the back, to get rifles on the shelf for Christmas, while the “qualified” personnel are behind the counter selling them.

 

[crestoncowboy]

You think the store mounts them or mossberg? I'm not sure really. They went to the back and mine came out in its box, they opened it and the scope was mounted. Maybe they had already done it. I really don't know

 

[Garandimal]

I spotted a group on clearance one day, walnut stocks setting them apart from the sea of synthetic. Unfortunately several had nasty handling marks and a few others a substance consistent with glue around the butt pads. Too bad as the price was right and crestoncowboy’s above report is the first ho hum about their accuracy.

I’m not the biggest fan of pre-mounted scopes but a Vortex on a hunting rifle is a fair trade up from what most manufacturers slap on a combo. Thanks for the heads up, and you did well indeed. Are your sons of age yet for deer/elk or working toward?

They are both in the field now, working on their craft.

We are still hunting folk.


Have noticed the same thing w/ the Patriot woodies - nice wood and finish, and then a slap-up recoil pad installation.

Probably could fix it, though.


The handling marks don't particularly bother me - the truck and the field will make them invisible soon enough.

This Remington M700 is an exception:

An early 80's BDL, with phone book grained black walnut hard as woodpecker lips, dipped in the DuPont Boat-resin they used to use.

Not much phases it.

Thought I'd refinish it in a satin oil decades ago - but ended up just Green Scotch-brite'n the surface to dull it instead.

The resin is thick as a toenail.






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[mshootnit]

The patriot is the budget gun I look towards when I consider buying a centerfire. I have heard so many good stories about them that it doesn’t make sense to not own one. Maybe next year. I’m pretty well done with gun purchases for a while. I may send off a form 1 to SBR my contender and use it as a holstered pocket rifle.

Don't sleep on the TC Compass either. A 6.5 for $289 is a good deal.

 

[Garandimal]

Nope not limp fish at all. I have a savage 12fv that fits that category. Great rifle though. The mossberg is more stiff feeling than those. Think happy meal toy plastic as opposed to pliable polymer. Its stiff and light though. Mine actually cracked at the magwell trigger housing screw. So they sent me that piece. Excellent and fast customer service. Very friendly too. I'm sure I had a thread on it when it happened. I like to plug the companies who are above average like that.

Of all the guns I've sent back or dealt with for people thats the only time I've ever gotten a freebie (a free magazine). I hear about it occasionally but never had gotten one that I recall

The Mossberg Synthetics seem to have trouble w/ the magnum cartridges.

Maybe the bedding system is taxed.


As for C/S? Haven't experienced Mossberg's, but that's good to hear.

RUGER - sure has been a Santa Claus.

Could tell stories...






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