Most affordable, yet still effective SD ammo

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Because I live in CA, and it doesn't look like the upcoming mail order ammo ban won't be repealed any time soon, I need to order a bunch of JHP's.

I've typically mailed ordered my SD rounds at around .50/rnd.
They've been Gold Dots, Golden Sabers, and HST's.

All the local stores sell civilian SD rounds at about a $1/rnd, and I kinda expect that to go up once they know they have a little monopoly and have no choice.

So at this point I'm willing to sacrifice some expansion for sheer quantity. So best bang for the buck so to speak.

Thanks,
 
I carry Winchester White Box JHP's (from wally world) in my CCW 45. I like to practice with what I depend to save my life, and they are cheap enough that I can shoot a few hundred a month without breaking the bank.
 
Knowing the caliber might help, but the winchester white box JHP's seem to be very low price and still have a pretty decent reputation for expanding.
 
Affordable and easy to find? WWB. I've also been shooting a lot of Fiocchi with the xtp pill in .380 and 9mm. Maybe not my first choice, but it's cheap, available and better than ball in a pinch (at least in 9 mil).
 
LawofThirds said:
Knowing the caliber might help
Multiple calibers.

Midway is out of stock on the winchester. Local wal-mart won't have it by the case.
Anyone know of another online retailer that carries cases of it?

Thanks
 
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Winchester "White Box" and Remington "green box." The latter comes packaged in 100-round boxes. In second place (price-wise) are the Federal "Classic" (non-Hydra-Shok/HST) loadings. Their performance is more proven, however.
 
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I have taken to shooting Federal "Classic" HPs in .45acp. It is only slightly more expensive than ball ammo.
 
Picked up a box of 100 Remington UMC 115gr JHPs (9mm) at Gander Mountain a couple of weeks ago. I think I paid around $25 for the box. They run flawlessly in my PF-9.
 
If your using a 45, why not go with FMJs.

Why use a .45 with FMJs when it'll be less effective than a 9mm with JHPs? Or better yet, use a .45 with JHPs. :)

I think that the real world difference between JHPs is limited.

Premium JHPs aren't perfect either, that's true, and budget JHPs expand just fine when tested in water, for example, however premium JHPs do seem to be significantly more reliable in terms of expansion when shot through simulated clothing. Here is what happened when tnoutdoors9 on YouTube tested WWB JHPs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eNqzChoPQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45AQwzqaas

Of the premium JHP tests he's conducted under similar conditions, there has been only one partial failure to expand, but none simply zipped right on through like the WWB JHPs did. The Montana Gold JHPs also performed poorly, but I don't know anybody who lists them among the premium JHPs for defensive use--their claim to fame is high accuracy for competitions.

I carry 230 gr HSTs, but if I were stuck with WWB JHP or FMJ .45, I wouldn't panic or change anything about how I shoot.

I live in California like the OP, but for me it's really just a small matter of cost for cartridges that I would very seldom shoot for practice (only cartridges that have been cycled through my pistol to avoid bullet setback, and to keep my defensive loads fresh). I've already shot enough of them in my reliability trial to be sure that they'll work if and when I need them, and in the meantime I'll shoot FMJ ammo at the range to save money even over budget JHPs; then I'll simply use the savings to buy the occasional box of 20 premium JHPs for defensive use (as replacements for old cartridges) and rarely for practice.

If the worst case happens in CA, then it would be rather costly to test premium JHPs for reliability (shooting a couple of hundred rounds or so) by today's standards, but once that is done you can then shoot whatever is cheapest (and still works). And by the way, the battle over AB 962 isn't nearly over yet. While it's true that every bill that has been introduced to repeal it has failed in the legislature--not surprisingly since a majority of the committee that votes on this stuff thinks it's a great idea :rolleyes:--AB 962 will have to fight an uphill battle to survive in the courts on several grounds, including interstate commerce issues, enforcement issues (CA cannot punish vendors in other states, so the state would have to go after carriers), and discrimination issues (CA would have to treat retailers taking deliveries of ammo from out of state differently from private citizens, and there is no provision for this in the bill because CA lacks the authority anyway). In short, such a law would only work at the federal level, as is the case for firearms, for instance. Similar local laws have been successfully implemented within CA, but that's only because they haven't been challenged like this one is going to be.
 
Ammo on a budget:

FMJs are pretty budgetable....affordable...cheaper.

In a perfect world we would be able to get any ammo at any time for any price and there would ideally be way less options to choose from since they all hammer the nail the same way anyway.
 
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