Most inaccurate ammo you've ever come across?
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My guess is your rifle barrel is 1 in 12" or even 1" in 14, Remington 721& 722' S were built kinda sloppy at times, got one of each on a dirt cheap trade, the trader I heard later was laughing his a## off. Checked the twist rates, way to slow, rebarreled 26" long Douglas, one .257 Roberts, don't recall the other, both 1"-10" twist rate, shot 1/2" group at 100 yards. Sold both triple MSRP. Check your rifle's twist rate, has to be 1"-10" to be accurate using 117-120, mine Winchester M70 .257 Ackley Improved 3300 fps. Speer RL Manual #8 RL#19, work up, observe all precautions. My velocity confirmed on my Oehler 35P Chronograph. Good Luck.I don’t think I can blame ammo a whole lot for my “minute of pie plate” days with handguns…especially at the ranges I shoot most handguns at. I think those were pretty much all on me.
Rifles? The only ammo that I can honestly say one of my rifles absolutely couldn’t stand was Hornady Light Magnum 117 gr BTSP +P out of my Rem 722 .257 Roberts.
I like the Hornady Interlock billet and really wanted this ammo to work, but I quickly found out that a fistful of gravel thrown at the target would print better groups than I could get with that ammo/rifle combo. I still have a few boxes that someday I’ll shoot just to be able to reload the cases.
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The partition load shoots pretty well, that’s a keeper.
Stay safe.
Riomouse911
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Yeah, I think the 117 BT is just a bit too long for the original twist rate as well. The 120 partition is a keeper, as is the old Rem 117 RN and Win 100 gr power point ammo.
Stay safe.
Buzznrose
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Freedom Munitions...by FAR!!!
It used to be good when they first came out. I had some 9MM a couple years ago that shot groups 3X larger than the same gun (G19) shot with pretty much anything else, including Blazer Brass, S&B, GECO, CCI Lawman, etc.
Second least accurate for me is Remington UMC in the yellow boxes. I hope the new Remy management get it back to the good stuff it used to be.
Alternatively, I have NEVER had any accuracy issues with any of the Euro or South of our border ammo. S&B, Magtech, GECO, MEN, et al...all are excellent!
Also, anything CCI, Speer, Underwood, and Federal has never let me down...
Pat Riot
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There are a lot of quality firearms related manufacturers in California. Also, that same franchise makes some "New" manufactured ammo that is pretty decent. Their "remanufactured" stuff has a lot to be desired. Not sure why.
Charlie98
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When I bought my M1a, I went out to find some ammos for it. Academy sporting goods had some Monarch, Academy's house brand, ammo real cheap, so I grabbed 2 boxes of it. I already had some 1970's Indian surplus (Santa Barbara...) and some Prvi white box.
Time was of the essence, so I just went to the local indoor range... 50' rifle range. I opened the Monarch ammos... and then realized why it was so cheap... it was steel-cased ammos, I'm guessing Russian or thereabouts. Well... whatever. My M1a is a Socom16... a 16" barrel with a muzzle brake. That Monarch blew an 8" flame up out of the brake... in the darkness of the indoor range booth, it would blind you every shot. Accuracy wasn't all that hot, either...
Monarch on the left, Prvi on the right. The Indian was somewhere in between. I've never seen such a drastic difference in similar ammos like that before, and further, out of a rifle at 50'.
Time was of the essence, so I just went to the local indoor range... 50' rifle range. I opened the Monarch ammos... and then realized why it was so cheap... it was steel-cased ammos, I'm guessing Russian or thereabouts. Well... whatever. My M1a is a Socom16... a 16" barrel with a muzzle brake. That Monarch blew an 8" flame up out of the brake... in the darkness of the indoor range booth, it would blind you every shot. Accuracy wasn't all that hot, either...
Monarch on the left, Prvi on the right. The Indian was somewhere in between. I've never seen such a drastic difference in similar ammos like that before, and further, out of a rifle at 50'.
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Never found it, created it myself, thinking about THAT CREATION is funny as hell now, started reloading at tender age of 12 ( maybe 14 ?? ) Bought myself a Lyman All American Reloading Progressive Press, still have it, still use it. Also got a really good ( ??? ) buy on a Remington 760 Gamemaster pump action 300 Savage, so far so good, Deer season arrives so loaded up twenty rounds, factory ammo $6.00 box of twenty, cost to much, so make my own, primers $0.60 per/100, H4831 military surplus powder $0.05 a pound, JSP Bullets 150 grain $3.00 per/101. So reloading manual states MAGNUM primers, did not have such, so use STANDARD primers, set up 4' by 4' sheet of plywood, bullseye in center, return to 100 yards distance fire 5 shots, go to target, NO bullet holes, look closely at plywood see little dents, notice 5 small holes in snow spread well apart just below dents in plywood, careful digging found all five bullets lead nose's show no sign of upset. Returning to shooting spot notice tiny black spots in snow ending about 20' from shooting bench. Tip down barrel unburned grains of powder spill out. 300 Savage DOES NOT like 4831 propellant. 1st lesson for Greenhorn.
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There is an additional factor as well.
Firearms, for being built on assembly lines, using interchangeable (generally) parts, wind up being unique.
Each one will have a harmony, a resonance that is all its own.
Identical firearms will "favor" a given ammo over another.
Firearms in the same caliber will have "preferences" too.
So, what looks like "great" ammo in one firearm might be "junk" in another.
Now, this sort of thing could be seen as a drawback, some sort of frustrating riddle and an unnecessary hurdle meant to vex us.
But, I will contend, it has a number of silver linings:
1. You get to go gripe on the internet and talk to all sorts of fascinating peoples.
2. You have an excuse to go buy more ammo (well, when it gets back to affordable here soon).
3. You have another reason to go to the range--for "testing," yeah, testing, honest.
4. You have a reason to buy another gun--it's for "research, honey, honest; an' a guy on the innernet tol' me to!"
5. ?????
6. Profit.
Firearms, for being built on assembly lines, using interchangeable (generally) parts, wind up being unique.
Each one will have a harmony, a resonance that is all its own.
Identical firearms will "favor" a given ammo over another.
Firearms in the same caliber will have "preferences" too.
So, what looks like "great" ammo in one firearm might be "junk" in another.
Now, this sort of thing could be seen as a drawback, some sort of frustrating riddle and an unnecessary hurdle meant to vex us.
But, I will contend, it has a number of silver linings:
1. You get to go gripe on the internet and talk to all sorts of fascinating peoples.
2. You have an excuse to go buy more ammo (well, when it gets back to affordable here soon).
3. You have another reason to go to the range--for "testing," yeah, testing, honest.
4. You have a reason to buy another gun--it's for "research, honey, honest; an' a guy on the innernet tol' me to!"
5. ?????
6. Profit.
Zendude
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This ^^^^^^
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Browning 22lr. It's so bad, the bullets move from side to side in the case.
Charlie98
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Actually, when I first bought my Buckmark, I found Remington Viper to be some of the most accurate ammos evarrr. I bought a case and shot it up... great stuff! I bought another case annnnnnnnd... what the hecks? This was the worst, most inaccurate stuff evarrr... even out of my rifles. That, of course, if I can even get the rounds to fire... about 1 of 7 wouldn't even fire.
ReggiesFree
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No doubt! LOL Most Darwins are awarded "Posthumous"...
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145gr Winchester Silvertip .357 Magnum ammo especially in a S&W M640.
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Green and yellow box Remington Parabellums. Aluminum case Federal .45ACP
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With buddies like that, who needs enemies???
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I have a STRONG feeling ( from $$$$$ experience ) you have old ammo, why?? Going on -50+?? bought five cases, of 22 lr ammo, $100.00 per case of 5,000, ( left out years ago ) shot one case full, traded off one case, went thru a divorce, moved five times and in doing so mislaid three cases, dug them out two years ago, discovered one in five would not fire, too old?? However, turning case over to different part of rim cartridge would fire, why???
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Trey Veston
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Just shot some of that in 9mm today through both a P365 and an Extar EP-9. Both liked it well enough, but the P365 was able to get 2" at 25 yards with it. Didn't notice any excess dirtiness.
Charlie98
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No, not really. I bought it in 2004, and immediately started shooting it.
Probably 10 years ago I had a G27 that shot great but I had bought a few boxes of 165gr WWB and one day while at the range I opened it up and wondered why my G27 became so inaccurate. Looked at the ammo and it appeared to have a very heavy crimp on it but everything I tried, even up close just wouldn't group, it would pattern. I've stayed away from it ever since.
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Found a trumpet-looking .32 case that I had reloaded as a .380. It had apparently worked, at least well enough to join some other spent cases...
Worst shooting reloads were my own doing. My standard 9mm load is 4.6/B'eye/115; it ran and shot well in about anything. Used it for years.
But noooooooo, I had to make it better. Bumped it to 4.8, which shot great in a HiPower and a G43. So I ran a bunch of it, then discovered that it would scarcely stay on the paper at 50' in a G19. Why it was accurate in the 43, but not the 19, is an enduring mystery.
Finally shot away what was left. Arghhhhh.
Moon
Worst shooting reloads were my own doing. My standard 9mm load is 4.6/B'eye/115; it ran and shot well in about anything. Used it for years.
But noooooooo, I had to make it better. Bumped it to 4.8, which shot great in a HiPower and a G43. So I ran a bunch of it, then discovered that it would scarcely stay on the paper at 50' in a G19. Why it was accurate in the 43, but not the 19, is an enduring mystery.
Finally shot away what was left. Arghhhhh.
Moon
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CBC/Magtech .45 Colt "cowboy" loads. One would go "BOOM" the next would got "poot". Even my 9mm Lee "Whack-a-Mole" loads were more consistent.
I've seen many shotgun reloads where the shot almost literally rolled out of the end of the barrel. The one ones I had problems with were some Eclipse hulls I used WAA-12 wads in because I waqs too cheap to but the Eclipse wads made for them. They broke targets just fine, but I had to bring the wadknocker with me to the line until I shot all of them up. (I was also too cheap to just take 'em down and salvage the components.)
I've seen many shotgun reloads where the shot almost literally rolled out of the end of the barrel. The one ones I had problems with were some Eclipse hulls I used WAA-12 wads in because I waqs too cheap to but the Eclipse wads made for them. They broke targets just fine, but I had to bring the wadknocker with me to the line until I shot all of them up. (I was also too cheap to just take 'em down and salvage the components.)
That usually means the primer wasn't spread out evenly, so if your hammer strikes on the part of the rim without primer, it'll just go click. If you rotate the round, your hammer may strike on a part of the rim that does have primer, so that will definitely shoot.
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